New Mayor for NYC 🎉

Might it be an idea to reserve judgement on a man who has never run anything other than his bath before christening him the new JFK. His election is clearly a reaction to Trump but he may find doing things more complicated than promising them. Here we have Farage on one wing and Polanski on another both wildly popular despite neither having any track record on actually delivering.

This reminds me of the threads pre the last GE. Everyone so excited and hopeful for a labour govt and look where we are now. Be careful what you wish for!

Whatever you think of him, he needs a voice coach. Far too high and squeaky.

George Orwell was born in India at a time when it was still part of the British Empire, so technically not an immigrant. No idea where JL was born but presumably that would also have been during the empire.

I think military bases also have a slightly different legal status (like embassies).

Otherwise, yep of course people born overseas who move here later in life are immigrants. Depending on the two countries, they may not be entitled to a passport in their parents’ home country, and often wouldn’t be able to pass on citizenship to their own children. Which is why many people decide to go back to their original country to give birth.

If you think they aren’t immigrants, does that mean that people born to eg Indian parents here are still Indian and not British? Because I’d say they are definitely British.

Certainly looks like the beginning of the end. Similar to what we voted in.

He is not natural born, so can't be POTUS.

Great to see a good communicator who doesn't use vile language to succeed. He's quite polished also in the ahem.... looks department, couldn't help saying that compared to the other front runners on the ticket. and of course Mr. T himself.

On a more solid note, is there a chance that he could be one of the Dems contenders for President next time, or is there any impediment i.e. where he was born etc.

Boris too. He was born in NY.

Edit. Ted Cruz too. He was born in Canada.

Really? So the likes of Joanna Lumley, George Orwell, and countless military and diplomatic corps kids are immigrants?

In addition to the above, there is this quote:

"Years in the U.S. The vast majority of immigrants have been in the United States long enough to establish roots in their communities. Almost 89% of foreign born New Yorkers have been in the U.S. for more than five years. More than half have been in the country for more than twenty years. Whether they’ve been in the United States for three days or thirty years, immigrants are valued members of the New York City community"

That is from page 9 of this 2024 NY Mayors office of Immigrant Affairs official report.

MOIA-2024-Annual-Report4.4.25.pdf (nyc.gov)

So it seems the claim that " immigrants who arrived in the past 5 years blah blah " is pretty well debunked.

The exit poll data will be interesting when it is worked out.

I wonder if Trump and his gang will look at the data when it comes out ?

How do you define immigrant ?

It's an interesting claim you make, and given that votes are confidential, I don't see where the data will come from to prove or disprove your claim.

As a Brit, I spent a fair bit of time in NY and I did consider doing the visa run thing to stay illegally for a while. That was about the same time Melania was doing that. It never panned out for me, but it did for her. I wonder how she would have voted. Or would you not class her as a migrant ?

I lived in London for a while, and voted there. British, but not born in London, so would you class me as a migrant in London?

Is someone from Ohio who moved to NY 4 years ago a migrant ?

Is Trump defined as a migrant in Florida, given that he was not born there, but now lives there?

In any case, a quick Bing, and an article from 2017 says Brooklyn has 48% native NY state born, Staten Island 69% State born, Bronx 50%, Queens 45%, Manhattan 42%..

Old data I know, not cherry picked, just first result that opens on my interweb.

Given those numbers, I am not sure if your claim can be true.

Brooklyn has more native New Yorkers than any other borough - Curbed NY

An immigrant is someone who resides permanently in a country other than their birth country.

Boris Johnson May have had held dual US and British citizenship (he relinquished it a few years ago) but I don’t think you could class him as an “immigrant mayor”. He was born in New York due to his father studying there, but came to England when he was a few months old, then spent a few years back in the US where his father worked returning to the UK when he was five. Sadiq Khan is obviously not an immigrant as he was born here, two years after his parents came here as immigrants from Pakistan.

Have you got the data for London with foreign v British mayors? I have had a look but can’t find how many immigrants voted for our most recent immigrant mayor Johnson v how many voted for our British mayor Khan.

So?

Amazing. Absolutely amazing.

Lots of other good news from the polls yesterday.

Heather Cox Richardson’s summary…

“Democrat Abigail Spanberger won the governorship of Virginia by 15 points, becoming Virginia’s first female governor. Every single county in Virginia moved toward the Democrats, who appear to have picked up at least 12 seats in the Virginia House of Delegates. Democrat Mikie Sherrill won the governorship of New Jersey by more than ten points (the vote counts are still coming in as I write this).

Pennsylvania voted to retain three state supreme court justices, preserving a 5–2 liberal majority on the court. Democrats in Georgia flipped two statewide seats for public service commissioners by double digits. Mississippi broke the Republican supermajority in the state senate.

Maine voters rejected an attempt to restrict mail-in voting; Colorado voters chose to raise taxes on households with incomes over $300,000 to pay for meals for public school students.

California voters approved Proposition 50 by a margin of about 2 to 1, making it hard for Trump to maintain the vote was illegitimate.

And in New York City, voters elected Zohran Mamdani mayor.

Tonight, legal scholar John Pfaff wrote: “Every race. It’s basically been every race. Governors. Mayors. Long-held [Republican] dog-catchers. School boards. Water boards. Flipped a dungeon master in a rural Iowa D&D club. State senators. State reps. A janitor in Duluth. State justices. Three [Republican] Uber drivers. Just everything.”

Trump posted on social media: “‘TRUMP WASN’T ON THE BALLOT, AND SHUTDOWN, WERE THE TWO REASONS THAT REPUBLICANS LOST ELECTIONS TONIGHT,’ according to Pollsters.”

But in fact, today voters resoundingly rejected Trump and Trumpism, and tomorrow, politics will be a whole different game.”

The people I know in London are not indifferent to him at all, but think he is a good Mayor doing a tough job. Racists can shout all they want, but he is our democratically elected Mayor for a reason!

The extremes of public opinion don’t hold power in the USA.

I understand your opinion. I am more pragmatic.

Local council elections would generally be about 30-35% turnout so I don’t think that says more than that as a country we’re not very engaged with local politics.

I think a lot of the people in London are indifferent to Khan, 60% of those eligible to vote in 2024 didn’t even bother and fewer than half of those who did turn out voted for him so not exactly a massive endorsement.

lovely man, great recent speech.

The polling just before the election showed Mandami had 30% support from US born residents in NYC whereas that rose to well over 60% for foreign born residents.

If you further split those groups the trend is even more stark. For example support from those who moved to the US in the last 5 years rises to nearly 80%.

Brilliant. I bet Trump's fuming.

Very happy! I hope Trump explodes.