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If Labour raises taxes what will you think?

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functioningagain · 29/10/2025 21:44

Typing on my phone so not sure I can do a poll? But, if the government raises income tax or NI at the budget, will you think:

A - let’s get real, they had no other choice
B - those duplicitous / inept bastards

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Labraradabrador · 09/11/2025 00:25

LaserPumpkin · 08/11/2025 20:08

So you want to make seeing an NHS GP more expensive than a private GP?

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£50 is pretty much the bottom for a private gp, but even £20 would massively reduce the number of time wasters.

Labraradabrador · 09/11/2025 00:23

BIossomtoes · 08/11/2025 19:27

Only because excess deaths would be through the ceiling. Unbelievable how many people want a return to the 1930s.

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People are dying because of delays in treatment. Cancer survival rates significantly lower in the UK.

excess deaths are already through the ceiling - time to try something new,

Labraradabrador · 09/11/2025 00:18

RoostingHens · 08/11/2025 19:02

So we end up with a bunch of people with severe conditions presenting to the NHS that could have been dealt with cheaply if seen at an earlier stage?

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But they aren’t being seen at earlier stages because so much resource guarding is required that truly sick people arent able to access medical care in a timely way.

PinkFruitbat · 08/11/2025 20:22

LaserPumpkin · 08/11/2025 20:13

It didn’t when I saw one a couple of weeks ago

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That’s surprising. How much did it cosf?

LaserPumpkin · 08/11/2025 20:13

PinkFruitbat · 08/11/2025 20:12

Seeing a private GP costs more than that.

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It didn’t when I saw one a couple of weeks ago

PinkFruitbat · 08/11/2025 20:12

LaserPumpkin · 08/11/2025 20:08

So you want to make seeing an NHS GP more expensive than a private GP?

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Seeing a private GP costs more than that.

LaserPumpkin · 08/11/2025 20:08

PinkFruitbat · 08/11/2025 18:35

100% benefits are completely out of control. But let’s start with the NHS; it’s an incinerator for our money. Completely out of control, badly managed, hugely wasteful.

end free prescriptions
£50 to see a GP (no exceptions)
£250 to see an A&E doctor (no exceptions)
no ID no care
patient feedback driven rewards

So you want to make seeing an NHS GP more expensive than a private GP?

HermioneWeasley · 08/11/2025 20:03

Justnevergetsthere · 08/11/2025 20:01

A - I expected to pay more in income tax. But I absolutely expect services to improve if we do. I hope that we're not just throwing good money after bad.

Nothing will improve - they’re spending it on welfare including removing the 2 child benefit cap so they’re increasing the welfare bill. Don’t kid yourself it will mean a functioning health service and streets that are safe.

Justnevergetsthere · 08/11/2025 20:01

A - I expected to pay more in income tax. But I absolutely expect services to improve if we do. I hope that we're not just throwing good money after bad.

GlobeTrotter2000 · 08/11/2025 20:00

In the Netherlands there is no NHS like in the UK, but a mandatory insurance system with an excess of €385 to discourage time wasters.

I don’t remember any of the locals complaining about it in the years I have worked there.

PinkFruitbat · 08/11/2025 19:49

BIossomtoes · 08/11/2025 19:27

Only because excess deaths would be through the ceiling. Unbelievable how many people want a return to the 1930s.

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When people had integrity

BIossomtoes · 08/11/2025 19:27

PinkFruitbat · 08/11/2025 19:25

The cost is outweighed by stopping all the time wasters.

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Only because excess deaths would be through the ceiling. Unbelievable how many people want a return to the 1930s.

PinkFruitbat · 08/11/2025 19:25

RoostingHens · 08/11/2025 19:02

So we end up with a bunch of people with severe conditions presenting to the NHS that could have been dealt with cheaply if seen at an earlier stage?

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The cost is outweighed by stopping all the time wasters.

RoostingHens · 08/11/2025 19:02

PinkFruitbat · 08/11/2025 18:35

100% benefits are completely out of control. But let’s start with the NHS; it’s an incinerator for our money. Completely out of control, badly managed, hugely wasteful.

end free prescriptions
£50 to see a GP (no exceptions)
£250 to see an A&E doctor (no exceptions)
no ID no care
patient feedback driven rewards

So we end up with a bunch of people with severe conditions presenting to the NHS that could have been dealt with cheaply if seen at an earlier stage?

PinkFruitbat · 08/11/2025 18:35

100% benefits are completely out of control. But let’s start with the NHS; it’s an incinerator for our money. Completely out of control, badly managed, hugely wasteful.

end free prescriptions
£50 to see a GP (no exceptions)
£250 to see an A&E doctor (no exceptions)
no ID no care
patient feedback driven rewards

NorthXNorthWest · 08/11/2025 18:21

itsgettingweird · 08/11/2025 15:37

A.

if we want better services we need to pay for them.

After 14years of them being run into the ground they are more expensive to reinstate.

What about the elephant in the room?

The cost of a growing public sector, full of waste and an unstainable benefits bill.

People are being screwed to pay for inefficiency, the work shy and those with a dubious moral compass.

We all need to do our bit... apart from the inefficient and the unproductive it seems.

winterbluess · 08/11/2025 16:00

PlaceIntheClouds · 29/10/2025 22:10

They should be cutting welfare and restricting Motability cars before more bloody tax raises

B with massive bells on.

This.. they should be making massive cuts!

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 08/11/2025 15:46

itsgettingweird · 08/11/2025 15:37

A.

if we want better services we need to pay for them.

After 14years of them being run into the ground they are more expensive to reinstate.

Who are the 'we" you are talking about?

EasternStandard · 08/11/2025 15:45

itsgettingweird · 08/11/2025 15:37

A.

if we want better services we need to pay for them.

After 14years of them being run into the ground they are more expensive to reinstate.

How much more are you happy to pay?

itsgettingweird · 08/11/2025 15:37

A.

if we want better services we need to pay for them.

After 14years of them being run into the ground they are more expensive to reinstate.

Araminta1003 · 08/11/2025 15:35

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2lknr2d3go

“Mahmood wants to reduce incentives that draw people to the UK, while making it easier to expel those with no right to be in the country.
But some in her party are against going down the Danish route, with one left-wing Labour MP saying it was too "hardcore" and contained echoes of the far right.”

The media is now painting the lefty Labour MPs and backbenchers as the baddies. So they are forewarned. There is a reason Corbyn did not get in.

Araminta1003 · 08/11/2025 15:12

According to the iPaper some MPs are quietly stageing a coup against Starmer. Those are all people who do not have a mandate from the country. It could get a lot worse without the more moderate types like Starmer and Reeves. People should remember that. Some of the MPs clearly need urgent lessons in economics and bond markets. We should really not have people in power who do not understand the basics anymore and then think they have the mandate of a population to bankrupt a country.

NorthXNorthWest · 08/11/2025 15:00

TwistyTurnip · 08/11/2025 12:30

We spend too much on welfare. I will probably get some sneery comments for saying this, but it’s true. Yes, there are people who are in genuine need, and yes we should support them - but it should be used as a last resort. Too many people are abusing the system and using it as a gravy train.

I was listening to LBC earlier in the week, and they said that the lifetime economic impact of someone never working over a 40 year period is between £800k and £1million.

The current government can’t do anything about it, because the back benchers won’t let them. So we will be stuck in this endless spiral of endless tax increases until we get rid of them at the next election. I dread to think what state the economy will be in and how much taxes will have gone up by that time.

I hope every MP that voted against cuts eventually loses their seat.

TwistyTurnip · 08/11/2025 12:30

We spend too much on welfare. I will probably get some sneery comments for saying this, but it’s true. Yes, there are people who are in genuine need, and yes we should support them - but it should be used as a last resort. Too many people are abusing the system and using it as a gravy train.

I was listening to LBC earlier in the week, and they said that the lifetime economic impact of someone never working over a 40 year period is between £800k and £1million.

The current government can’t do anything about it, because the back benchers won’t let them. So we will be stuck in this endless spiral of endless tax increases until we get rid of them at the next election. I dread to think what state the economy will be in and how much taxes will have gone up by that time.