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Anyone else really concerned about asylum seekers killing people, seemingly to get a life term prison sentence?

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potato08 · 29/10/2025 14:46

Just to clarify I'm a lifelong labour voter before I get told I'm a deform bot!
Locally to me an assylum seeker from Ethiopia has just been jailed for 25 years for the murder of a man in a bank in broad daylight (he was angry that his application had been turned down).
Earlier this week an afghan national killed 1 person and injured 3 more...
I follow politics, and geo politics (am a history grad) and so I'm aware that the current immigration levels are nothing to what will come when the Sahel region collapses, but is this going to keep happening?
Why can't they be deported? Why should uk tax payers pay?
I have teen dds, and it makes me scared for them.
I know there's no quick fix after years of tory corruption and inaction, but what could be done within a legal framework?
Would rejoining the EU help stop the boats?

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Timeforabitofpeace · 29/10/2025 18:03

No, @Dollymylove, lefties like me don’t want rapists here, any more than we want uk rapists here.

Meadowfinch · 29/10/2025 18:02

Timeforabitofpeace · 29/10/2025 16:40

The story in the press (BBC) about the guy Kebatu who was deported yesterday really annoyed me. Why advertise that they had to give him £500? Adverts attract customers.

I don't understand why he wasn't handcuffed/shackled to prevent him disrupting the flight. Why give him money? He will only use it to try to come back.

Zuve · 29/10/2025 18:01

Yes it's terrible for the families. Mental health issues are not an excuse. It's true that trouble always travel. Happy people stay in one place. It's simple really, lock then up, make them work, chuck them out back home after smart photography taken so they can be identified easily

xanthomelana · 29/10/2025 17:55

verycloakanddaggers · 29/10/2025 17:06

@potato08 I think you're spiralling and should step away from whatever you're reading and look at something else, something that will give some perspective. Connect with real life.

It is real life for the families of the people that were killed or should they stop spiralling and connect with real life as well?

Westfacing · 29/10/2025 17:48

Surely it's better for killers to get a long prison sentence as a punishment for the crime, rather than being deported - that's like getting off scot-free.

I know that means the expense of keeping them in prison but that's the least bad option IMO.

Almostwelsh · 29/10/2025 17:46

Dollymylove · 29/10/2025 17:35

Apparently he threatened to "disrupt" his deportation. Have the authorities not heard of handcuffs and leg restraints? Im surprised a bunch of lefty protesters didnt try to stop his deportation, tbh

I think the problem is that deported people are usually carried on regular scheduled airlines. If they are too disruptive, the the aircrew will refuse to carry them for safety reasons and for the safety of other passengers. It's not like the States where there are dedicated prison planes. We don't have those resources.

potato08 · 29/10/2025 17:41

verycloakanddaggers · 29/10/2025 17:06

@potato08 I think you're spiralling and should step away from whatever you're reading and look at something else, something that will give some perspective. Connect with real life.

Hardly "spiralling"!
Why is it that women expressing real concern are dismissed in such a way?

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potato08 · 29/10/2025 17:41

verycloakanddaggers · 29/10/2025 17:32

There's loads on the UN website about the region.

Read prisoners of geography by Tim Marshall

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potato08 · 29/10/2025 17:40

CorneliaCupp · 29/10/2025 16:59

The Guardian are reporting that since he was wrongly released, 5 other prisoners have been released in error. My assumption is that this is as a result of years of underfunding.

Nearly 500 this year apparently

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Dollymylove · 29/10/2025 17:35

Timeforabitofpeace · 29/10/2025 16:40

The story in the press (BBC) about the guy Kebatu who was deported yesterday really annoyed me. Why advertise that they had to give him £500? Adverts attract customers.

Apparently he threatened to "disrupt" his deportation. Have the authorities not heard of handcuffs and leg restraints? Im surprised a bunch of lefty protesters didnt try to stop his deportation, tbh

verycloakanddaggers · 29/10/2025 17:32

Troisoranges · 29/10/2025 17:26

What do you mean when the Sahel region collapses?

There's loads on the UN website about the region.

Troisoranges · 29/10/2025 17:26

What do you mean when the Sahel region collapses?

TheLivelyRose · 29/10/2025 17:09

Are you suggesting that they shouldn't do jail time and just sent home to be free? Many more would come Id imagine if they knew they could murder and rape without any consequences.

verycloakanddaggers · 29/10/2025 17:06

@potato08 I think you're spiralling and should step away from whatever you're reading and look at something else, something that will give some perspective. Connect with real life.

Timeforabitofpeace · 29/10/2025 17:03

I also found it hard to understand why that twat Farage told survivors of grooming gangs that they were not victims of grooming gangs. FFS.

CorneliaCupp · 29/10/2025 16:59

potato08 · 29/10/2025 15:03

The man that was wrongly released did not serve his sentance, though?
I find the whole thing hard to understand.
It wasnt one person's mistake...many people must have failed in their job for him to walk out of that prison..

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The Guardian are reporting that since he was wrongly released, 5 other prisoners have been released in error. My assumption is that this is as a result of years of underfunding.

LoveSundays · 29/10/2025 16:47

NewspaperTaxis · 29/10/2025 15:09

Two other things - I am glad he did not die of cold having to sleep out overnight in Finsbury Park in spite of everything he did, and secondly where did he get his change of clothes?

Whilst he was on the run, police said he had 'access to money'......🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

Timeforabitofpeace · 29/10/2025 16:40

The story in the press (BBC) about the guy Kebatu who was deported yesterday really annoyed me. Why advertise that they had to give him £500? Adverts attract customers.

potato08 · 29/10/2025 16:16

NewYorkSummer · 29/10/2025 15:30

I must be local to you OP. What angered me
most about this case is that the defendant was apparently known to the police in 4 other countries for theft, ABH and alcohol issues. And still made it over here. I dont know what the answer is, but it absolutely is not our job to fix the worlds problems. It just isn’t.

Its clear that agencies just do not communicate with each other

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NewYorkSummer · 29/10/2025 15:30

I must be local to you OP. What angered me
most about this case is that the defendant was apparently known to the police in 4 other countries for theft, ABH and alcohol issues. And still made it over here. I dont know what the answer is, but it absolutely is not our job to fix the worlds problems. It just isn’t.

SwordOfOmens · 29/10/2025 15:10

They committed a crime in this country so they serve their jail time in this country. Then they're deported.

NewspaperTaxis · 29/10/2025 15:09

Two other things - I am glad he did not die of cold having to sleep out overnight in Finsbury Park in spite of everything he did, and secondly where did he get his change of clothes?

NewspaperTaxis · 29/10/2025 15:08

The whole thing is a shambles - and that's before you get to people on those, what is it, IPP sentences where they are still in jail 20 years later for nicking some minor item, shame they can't be 'accidentally' released.

I read up on the story a bit but still don't know if it's better the guy was deported - which we are told he wanted to be anyway - in lieu of his sentence, in which case he committed the crime but served no real time, you'd think. Which is better, that someone who commits an offence gets deported? If so, they get off. Or that they do their time, and cost the taxpayers thousands?

Or was it that he was due to be deported to serve the rest of his sentence back 'home' in his country of origin, as someone above suggests. But that he got released when he should have been deported.

potato08 · 29/10/2025 15:04

Is there anything - realistically - that the govt can do ?

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potato08 · 29/10/2025 15:03

The man that was wrongly released did not serve his sentance, though?
I find the whole thing hard to understand.
It wasnt one person's mistake...many people must have failed in their job for him to walk out of that prison..

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