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Anyone else really concerned about asylum seekers killing people, seemingly to get a life term prison sentence?

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potato08 · 29/10/2025 14:46

Just to clarify I'm a lifelong labour voter before I get told I'm a deform bot!
Locally to me an assylum seeker from Ethiopia has just been jailed for 25 years for the murder of a man in a bank in broad daylight (he was angry that his application had been turned down).
Earlier this week an afghan national killed 1 person and injured 3 more...
I follow politics, and geo politics (am a history grad) and so I'm aware that the current immigration levels are nothing to what will come when the Sahel region collapses, but is this going to keep happening?
Why can't they be deported? Why should uk tax payers pay?
I have teen dds, and it makes me scared for them.
I know there's no quick fix after years of tory corruption and inaction, but what could be done within a legal framework?
Would rejoining the EU help stop the boats?

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IstillloveKingThistle · 29/10/2025 21:51

saraclara · 29/10/2025 21:42

When they're granted asylum, they'll be able to work. So won't need benefits.

Oh please

IstillloveKingThistle · 29/10/2025 21:51

LoveSundays · 29/10/2025 21:45

Well currently neither of the adults really speak any English. And the woman will probably need to be at home caring for all the children. I find it hard to imagine he will find a job that pays well enough to support 7 of them without needing any benefits.

The whole thing is beyond a mess. It’s unsustainable.

LoveSundays · 29/10/2025 21:48

saraclara · 29/10/2025 21:42

When they're granted asylum, they'll be able to work. So won't need benefits.

I mean there's no 🤣🤣🤣🤣 emoji so it had to be done!!! One of the funniest things I've read on MN in a long time.

LoveSundays · 29/10/2025 21:45

saraclara · 29/10/2025 21:42

When they're granted asylum, they'll be able to work. So won't need benefits.

Well currently neither of the adults really speak any English. And the woman will probably need to be at home caring for all the children. I find it hard to imagine he will find a job that pays well enough to support 7 of them without needing any benefits.

saraclara · 29/10/2025 21:42

LoveSundays · 29/10/2025 20:17

Also, the cost is absolutely ridiculous.
One family where I am (big town in SW) - family of 7 from Afghanistan. Live in a 4 bedroom house (have full rent, council tax and bills all paid) and get £200 a week.

I understand they're waiting for their asylum claim to come through. I assume when it does they will also then be entitled to Universal credit and child benefit?
This is just one family. How many families like this are all over the country?
Surely this is just not sustainable for such a small country.....

When they're granted asylum, they'll be able to work. So won't need benefits.

saraclara · 29/10/2025 21:37

Damnd · 29/10/2025 18:58

@Zenwalnut Having spent time with a foreign national community, it is very common for people serving sentences to accept being deported for a shorter sentence and then they quite simply come back illegally to the UK. The ones that carry out their sentence in the UK fully do so they can gain legal status in UK otherwise they can choose the quick way out and back in again

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If they're deported (the term used when someone is returned to their home country because they've committed a crime) they can't return.

If they're removed (the term used when they're returned to their home country because they've been refused asylum) there's nothing stopping them trying again.

It would be ridiculous to commit a crime deliberately, because the result of that would be eventual deportation and no second chance.

EasternStandard · 29/10/2025 21:27

potato08 · 29/10/2025 21:17

I'm mixed race.
I'm fucking tired of being called racist and "spiralling" for pointing out that I'm concerned about undocumented men from countries who think women are lesser human beings coming here and the authorities seemingly having no way of knowing where they are or what they are doing.
But I'm a left wing middle aged woman so what do I know?
There are afghanis that should be here - the last govt threw the afghan interpreters to the mercy of the Taliban.
When we were in the EU we had reciprocal arrangements to return/prevent small boat crossings.
My dc are female, so, yes, I'm scared - of the white andrew tate incel morons and illegal immigrants who think British women and girls are fair game.
Look at what the authorities being scared to point out SA, violence and grooming by certain ethnic groups did in Yorkshire!
But it was poor, wc girls so who cares, right?
Probably just me "spiralling" again 😡

Being in the EU doesn’t change much. Look at ROI and Germany.

Winter2020 · 29/10/2025 21:27

applegingermint · 29/10/2025 19:08

They gave him £500 in return for him not attempting to claim asylum. If he put in a new asylum claim they wouldn’t have been able to deport him until his claim was heard.

You could not make it up.
Complete embarrassment.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 29/10/2025 21:25

potato08 · 29/10/2025 17:41

Hardly "spiralling"!
Why is it that women expressing real concern are dismissed in such a way?

It’s the lefty way….nothing to see here….look over there.

LoveSundays · 29/10/2025 21:23

potato08 · 29/10/2025 21:17

I'm mixed race.
I'm fucking tired of being called racist and "spiralling" for pointing out that I'm concerned about undocumented men from countries who think women are lesser human beings coming here and the authorities seemingly having no way of knowing where they are or what they are doing.
But I'm a left wing middle aged woman so what do I know?
There are afghanis that should be here - the last govt threw the afghan interpreters to the mercy of the Taliban.
When we were in the EU we had reciprocal arrangements to return/prevent small boat crossings.
My dc are female, so, yes, I'm scared - of the white andrew tate incel morons and illegal immigrants who think British women and girls are fair game.
Look at what the authorities being scared to point out SA, violence and grooming by certain ethnic groups did in Yorkshire!
But it was poor, wc girls so who cares, right?
Probably just me "spiralling" again 😡

Agree with you. Although not sure about the white Andrew Tate incel moron line.....🤔😅😅😅

potato08 · 29/10/2025 21:17

I'm mixed race.
I'm fucking tired of being called racist and "spiralling" for pointing out that I'm concerned about undocumented men from countries who think women are lesser human beings coming here and the authorities seemingly having no way of knowing where they are or what they are doing.
But I'm a left wing middle aged woman so what do I know?
There are afghanis that should be here - the last govt threw the afghan interpreters to the mercy of the Taliban.
When we were in the EU we had reciprocal arrangements to return/prevent small boat crossings.
My dc are female, so, yes, I'm scared - of the white andrew tate incel morons and illegal immigrants who think British women and girls are fair game.
Look at what the authorities being scared to point out SA, violence and grooming by certain ethnic groups did in Yorkshire!
But it was poor, wc girls so who cares, right?
Probably just me "spiralling" again 😡

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CorneliaCupp · 29/10/2025 21:16

IstillloveKingThistle · 29/10/2025 21:11

Oh please . The majority shouldn’t be here in the first place. They are illegally. End of .

What other country , apart from our pathetic soft touch , accepts illegals and hands them homes, benefits, food etc free of charge .

The majority of the indigenous have had enough but are called racists for being concerned . It’s fucking ludicrous.

They're not here illegally. They may have entered the country by an illegal route, but once they are here and have aimed asylum they are no longer illegal

IstillloveKingThistle · 29/10/2025 21:11
  • Here illegally
IstillloveKingThistle · 29/10/2025 21:11

Yamamm · 29/10/2025 14:50

No. There is a lot of mental illness amongst migrants but I don’t think they plan to commit murders specifically to get a prison place. It’s desperate people far from home who are not coping and who can’t face going home with nothing when they fail at their new lives.

Most just move on to another European country and try again.

Oh please . The majority shouldn’t be here in the first place. They are illegally. End of .

What other country , apart from our pathetic soft touch , accepts illegals and hands them homes, benefits, food etc free of charge .

The majority of the indigenous have had enough but are called racists for being concerned . It’s fucking ludicrous.

LoveSundays · 29/10/2025 21:06

Born and bred 😅

CuriousKangaroo · 29/10/2025 21:03

No. And frankly, this is next level batshittery.

LoveSundays · 29/10/2025 20:54

Andregroup · 29/10/2025 20:46

My argument is that it is unfair to lay the blame for the massive benefits bill at the feet of the asylum seekers - I agree the cost is not sustainable, but disagree that it's unaffordability is caused by asylum seekers.

I'm not laying the blame for the massive benefit bill at the feet of asylum seekers.
I think the current benefit bill is unsustainable before we even factor in asylum seekers. The amount of British born & breed people claiming benefits is unsustainable.

Glitchymn1 · 29/10/2025 20:50

xanthomelana · 29/10/2025 20:39

I couldn’t care if they are purple with green spots, undocumented people entering the country is worrying and we have no idea who they are, how old they are, where they come from or their past history.

^Agree with this.

Andregroup · 29/10/2025 20:46

LoveSundays · 29/10/2025 20:36

Exactly 💯
We have enough of our own people here who cant support themselves as it is - we really can't afford any others.
I guess your argument is a bit like when people talk about potential dangers to women from thousands of undocumented men coming into the country. And someone really helpfully pops up to say how dangerous some British men are. That argument doesn't make any sense though, does it? So let's just bring more in?

My argument is that it is unfair to lay the blame for the massive benefits bill at the feet of the asylum seekers - I agree the cost is not sustainable, but disagree that it's unaffordability is caused by asylum seekers.

PandoraSocks · 29/10/2025 20:39

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xanthomelana · 29/10/2025 20:39

KimTheresPeopleThatAreDying · 29/10/2025 20:33

What do you suggest? Are you worried about white people committing murder, or just brown ones?

I couldn’t care if they are purple with green spots, undocumented people entering the country is worrying and we have no idea who they are, how old they are, where they come from or their past history.

Overthemhills · 29/10/2025 20:38

@potato08
Yoy are a history student or studied history… so can you tell us for how many years males/men from Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq or other countries with differing views about women to the UK, have been coming illegally to the UK?

LoveSundays · 29/10/2025 20:36

Andregroup · 29/10/2025 20:24

You would be astonished at the benefits bill the taxpayer is supporting for families who were born and bred here. I work in a large secondary school with a 95% white British intake, in an 'affluent' home counties area. 18% of our students are entitled to free school meals. Which means those families will also be getting other support.

Your family mentioned above is just a tiny addition to the already unsustainable spend we are all shouldering.

Exactly 💯
We have enough of our own people here who cant support themselves as it is - we really can't afford any others.
I guess your argument is a bit like when people talk about potential dangers to women from thousands of undocumented men coming into the country. And someone really helpfully pops up to say how dangerous some British men are. That argument doesn't make any sense though, does it? So let's just bring more in?

safetyfreak · 29/10/2025 20:36

KimTheresPeopleThatAreDying · 29/10/2025 20:33

What do you suggest? Are you worried about white people committing murder, or just brown ones?

LOL,

People have a right to express concerns about an influx of men from countries that frankly do not respect women or understand Western culture.

KimTheresPeopleThatAreDying · 29/10/2025 20:33

potato08 · 29/10/2025 15:04

Is there anything - realistically - that the govt can do ?

What do you suggest? Are you worried about white people committing murder, or just brown ones?