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Anyone else really concerned about asylum seekers killing people, seemingly to get a life term prison sentence?

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potato08 · 29/10/2025 14:46

Just to clarify I'm a lifelong labour voter before I get told I'm a deform bot!
Locally to me an assylum seeker from Ethiopia has just been jailed for 25 years for the murder of a man in a bank in broad daylight (he was angry that his application had been turned down).
Earlier this week an afghan national killed 1 person and injured 3 more...
I follow politics, and geo politics (am a history grad) and so I'm aware that the current immigration levels are nothing to what will come when the Sahel region collapses, but is this going to keep happening?
Why can't they be deported? Why should uk tax payers pay?
I have teen dds, and it makes me scared for them.
I know there's no quick fix after years of tory corruption and inaction, but what could be done within a legal framework?
Would rejoining the EU help stop the boats?

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merkinmanipulator · 31/10/2025 16:34

Swiftasthewind · 31/10/2025 16:28

He actually sounds like a pretty responsible bloke overall, I imagine that most of our ‘home grown’ criminals would have simply vanished into the streets but he actually tried to do the right thing. It’s a pity they sent him back he could have been rehabilitated for sure.

A pretty responsible bloke? He's a sex offender. Although as we've seen clearly on your other threads, your own sexual proclivities are hardly virtuous, so maybe birds of a feather are flocking together.

Swiftasthewind · 31/10/2025 16:28

Pharazon · 31/10/2025 16:25

They did. He repeatedly returned to the prison to explain to them that he was supposed to go to a deportation centre but the prison reception staff just told him to leave. He then approached police officers, dressed in prison greys, to try and get them to believe him. They don’t and instead told him to take the train to London.

it absolutely beggars belief, especially considering how high profile his arrest and conviction was.

He actually sounds like a pretty responsible bloke overall, I imagine that most of our ‘home grown’ criminals would have simply vanished into the streets but he actually tried to do the right thing. It’s a pity they sent him back he could have been rehabilitated for sure.

Pharazon · 31/10/2025 16:25

potato08 · 29/10/2025 15:03

The man that was wrongly released did not serve his sentance, though?
I find the whole thing hard to understand.
It wasnt one person's mistake...many people must have failed in their job for him to walk out of that prison..

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They did. He repeatedly returned to the prison to explain to them that he was supposed to go to a deportation centre but the prison reception staff just told him to leave. He then approached police officers, dressed in prison greys, to try and get them to believe him. They don’t and instead told him to take the train to London.

it absolutely beggars belief, especially considering how high profile his arrest and conviction was.

Flyingintotheunknown · 31/10/2025 16:21

MellersSmellers · 31/10/2025 16:15

Yes, but surely the answer to all of this is a well-funded, well-staffed, fair and efficient asylum claims assessment system and failed claims removal process.
When we have the numbers in the system down to a manageable level we might have a hope of having a more humane process that actually helps those with MH needs, rather than exacerbating those MH issues through the chaotic system we have at the moment.
And we need all sides of the political spectrum to get on board with getting there. At the moment Reform and the Tories are sabotaging any attempts to address this shitshow.
OP - don't confuse the amount of news coverage you hear with actual crime rate statistics

“At the moment Reform and the Tories are sabotaging any attempts to address this shitshow.”

And what is Labour doing at the moment to address this shit show then? How do you feel their one in one out (and one back in again) scheme is going?
Because from where I’m standing it looks as if it’s Labour that’s sabotaging any attempts to address this shit show by making feeble, half hearted attempts to make it ‘look’ like they are doing something.

MellersSmellers · 31/10/2025 16:15

Yes, but surely the answer to all of this is a well-funded, well-staffed, fair and efficient asylum claims assessment system and failed claims removal process.
When we have the numbers in the system down to a manageable level we might have a hope of having a more humane process that actually helps those with MH needs, rather than exacerbating those MH issues through the chaotic system we have at the moment.
And we need all sides of the political spectrum to get on board with getting there. At the moment Reform and the Tories are sabotaging any attempts to address this shitshow.
OP - don't confuse the amount of news coverage you hear with actual crime rate statistics

Insanityisnotastrategy · 30/10/2025 17:34

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 30/10/2025 15:50

It’s ok you need to take a look at this posters posts elsewhere to see which way the wind blows.

I see what you mean. 😳

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 30/10/2025 15:50

Insanityisnotastrategy · 30/10/2025 15:40

Right, ok. I don't think so at all. Her voice sounds like she's crying. Be glad you don't live in an area affected by these 'far right myths'.

It’s ok you need to take a look at this posters posts elsewhere to see which way the wind blows.

Insanityisnotastrategy · 30/10/2025 15:40

Swiftasthewind · 30/10/2025 12:43

I don’t know, if you listen to the woman’s voice, before she begins to cry, it sounds almost distorted and different to the rest of her voice. Also in what she’s saying, talking about everyone she knows being stabbed and having to go out with a man, these are all far right myths about society that they put out to make people scared. I’m surprised she didn’t mention grooming gangs to be honest. It could be genuine I suppose, but I’m not so sure personally.

Right, ok. I don't think so at all. Her voice sounds like she's crying. Be glad you don't live in an area affected by these 'far right myths'.

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insults now great stuff I really pity your kids stuck with you as a parent and your far right friends as role models there not a lot of hope for them is there

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a caught out so decided to become Crammer police gotta love mn

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Coffeetime25 · 30/10/2025 13:56

LoveSundays · 30/10/2025 11:56

Did you actually read my post? That includes rent, bills and council tax.
The rent is around 2.5k plus bills and council tax. So the £800 a month is after all the big things have gone out.
So I guess that's around 5k a month to the tax payer for one family. Do you think that's sustainable in the current climate?

rent goes to landlord so take that up with them I guessing this family don't need to pay any electricity bills or buy any food or anything like that either by your reckoning and the kids don't need education shoes or clothes so the 200 is do do as the parents please lol

Julen7 · 30/10/2025 13:21

Swiftasthewind · 30/10/2025 12:43

I don’t know, if you listen to the woman’s voice, before she begins to cry, it sounds almost distorted and different to the rest of her voice. Also in what she’s saying, talking about everyone she knows being stabbed and having to go out with a man, these are all far right myths about society that they put out to make people scared. I’m surprised she didn’t mention grooming gangs to be honest. It could be genuine I suppose, but I’m not so sure personally.

“Far right myths?” After everything that has been in the news this week?

Swiftasthewind · 30/10/2025 12:43

Insanityisnotastrategy · 30/10/2025 12:22

What do you mean it doesn't sound real?

I don’t know, if you listen to the woman’s voice, before she begins to cry, it sounds almost distorted and different to the rest of her voice. Also in what she’s saying, talking about everyone she knows being stabbed and having to go out with a man, these are all far right myths about society that they put out to make people scared. I’m surprised she didn’t mention grooming gangs to be honest. It could be genuine I suppose, but I’m not so sure personally.

LoveSundays · 30/10/2025 12:26

PandoraSocks · 30/10/2025 12:02

The £2.5k rent presumably goes into the pocket of a landlord, not the tenant?Do you think charging that level of rent is sustainable in the current climate?

Also, there's lots of threads on here about the cost of rent, if that's your thing.

LoveSundays · 30/10/2025 12:24

PandoraSocks · 30/10/2025 12:02

The £2.5k rent presumably goes into the pocket of a landlord, not the tenant?Do you think charging that level of rent is sustainable in the current climate?

Of course it doesn't go into the tenants pocket. Regardless of where that money goes, it's still a massive cost to the taxpayer.
Maybe if we didn't already have so many born & bred Brits who are a drain, the situation wouldn't be so bad.

Insanityisnotastrategy · 30/10/2025 12:22

Swiftasthewind · 30/10/2025 12:12

That clip doesn’t sound real. Who is that woman? Do we even know if she’s genuine?

What do you mean it doesn't sound real?

Swiftasthewind · 30/10/2025 12:12

PeachOctopus · 30/10/2025 05:41

I don’t think they do it to go to jail, the they have housing and food and freedoms. I think the small amount of violent migrants it is poor impulse control and possibly a criminal background or coming from a background of normalised violence.

The knife attack yesterday by a migrant who lived here for 5 years -given leave to remain in Uxbridge the migrant attacked Mr Singh who he was staying with for no apparent reason then a boy and then he killed the male dog walker all for no apparent reason.

Uxbridge Hillingdon area of London has the highest number of migrant HMO’s and this woman rang a talk show to tell how it has affected crime in her area.

Talk radio

"WE'RE NOT RACIST WE'RE PETRIFIED"

"WHAT ARE THESE POLITICIANS DOING TO US. THEY'RE PUTTING EVERYONE IN DANGER"

"I DON'T LEAVE THE HOUSE WITHOUT A MAN"

  • My local shop has had 3 stabbings. 1 Murder.
  • My friend was murdered last year
  • A girl I know was murdered in the park
  • I'm begging my son to leave the country
  • My cousin was murdered

"OUR FRIENDS. OUR FAMILY ARE DYING"

That clip doesn’t sound real. Who is that woman? Do we even know if she’s genuine?

PandoraSocks · 30/10/2025 12:02

LoveSundays · 30/10/2025 11:56

Did you actually read my post? That includes rent, bills and council tax.
The rent is around 2.5k plus bills and council tax. So the £800 a month is after all the big things have gone out.
So I guess that's around 5k a month to the tax payer for one family. Do you think that's sustainable in the current climate?

The £2.5k rent presumably goes into the pocket of a landlord, not the tenant?Do you think charging that level of rent is sustainable in the current climate?