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Latest mansion tax should be on top % homes locally not nationallu

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Lionfisher · 27/10/2025 22:37

Rachel Reeves is front running yet another class warfare policy in the press, this time suggesting everyone who lives in a home over £2m should have to pay 1% on anything above 2m.

First - I’m fine with this. I live in SW London and would probably have to pay some.

But I’m ONLY fine with it if everyone round the country does too. Meaning that it should be on the top 5% of homes by REGION (I’ll leave it to other people to argue what region means, all the data is there to do it).

We could happily sell our 4 bed home and move somewhere else in the country and buy a 10 bed castle. Or just buy another 4 bed home and stash the rest in the markets. TBH we might even do that if this comes in.

But people don’t want us to do this because it prices them out of local homes etc. Which is pretty much what this policy would do, price people out of local homes so they move elsewhere and prices up somewhere else instead.

But more than anything you can be far more rich on far less money in other parts of the country. So this isn’t a tax on property it’s a tax on the south.

As long as top X% of homeowners elsewhere are paying their 1% above their threshold I’ve no issues with this.

But people won’t agree with me as it’s easier to think it should always be “other people” who pay…. or will they?

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Newmeagain · 28/10/2025 00:38

Hellohelga · 27/10/2025 23:32

Lol no one has a £1.5m mortgage.

Im in London area and well off, but my house is below £2m. These people may not like it but can def afford it. BTW it’s not just London, there are a lot of multi million pound houses in the New Forest and they sell like hot cakes. There are some seriously wealthy people out there.

What do you mean “no one has a £1.5 million mortgage”. Of course they do. I had a £500k mortgage as a lone parent on a salary that wasn’t that high. Plenty of my work colleagues are in couples with both earning high salaries and can afford that sort of mortgage. They are not “ wealthy” - they are just pumping all the money from their 14 hours a day mega stressful jobs into property.

IDoHaveACrystalBall · 28/10/2025 00:25

1dayatatime · 27/10/2025 23:23

It's another badly thought through Labour policy of envy rather than a prudent tax policy.

How is it that a person with a £2 million house and a £1.5 million mortgage has to pay it but someone with a £1.2 million house doesn't.

If you want to raise tax revenue from housing then simply introduce CGT for main residence. You could even have it kicking in after a CGT threshold of x, so that it only bashes the poshos and boomers down sizing.

"Poshos and boomers". FGS.

good luck when there's no one left to tax

DonnatellaLyman · 27/10/2025 23:45

£2m is mega money anywhere - and I say this as a Londoner. You do not need to spend that much to live a 4 bed house even in zone 2/3.

1dayatatime · 27/10/2025 23:37

Hellohelga · 27/10/2025 23:32

Lol no one has a £1.5m mortgage.

Im in London area and well off, but my house is below £2m. These people may not like it but can def afford it. BTW it’s not just London, there are a lot of multi million pound houses in the New Forest and they sell like hot cakes. There are some seriously wealthy people out there.

My point is that if introduced it should be on net wealth- value of property minus debt not absolute value.

But if you did that it would disincentivize paying off your mortgage

Basically it's another Labour policy where they haven't thought through the secondary impacts or practicality of implementation (eg who decides if a house is worth £2.2 million or £1.8 million)

Vdlormp · 27/10/2025 23:33

Leavesfalling · 27/10/2025 22:58

Just enjoy your unearned wealth. People from the north don't need to be shafted even more.

The whole mansion tax idea is rubbish anyway.

What makes you think it is unearned?

Hellohelga · 27/10/2025 23:32

1dayatatime · 27/10/2025 23:23

It's another badly thought through Labour policy of envy rather than a prudent tax policy.

How is it that a person with a £2 million house and a £1.5 million mortgage has to pay it but someone with a £1.2 million house doesn't.

If you want to raise tax revenue from housing then simply introduce CGT for main residence. You could even have it kicking in after a CGT threshold of x, so that it only bashes the poshos and boomers down sizing.

Lol no one has a £1.5m mortgage.

Im in London area and well off, but my house is below £2m. These people may not like it but can def afford it. BTW it’s not just London, there are a lot of multi million pound houses in the New Forest and they sell like hot cakes. There are some seriously wealthy people out there.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 27/10/2025 23:29

1dayatatime · 27/10/2025 23:23

It's another badly thought through Labour policy of envy rather than a prudent tax policy.

How is it that a person with a £2 million house and a £1.5 million mortgage has to pay it but someone with a £1.2 million house doesn't.

If you want to raise tax revenue from housing then simply introduce CGT for main residence. You could even have it kicking in after a CGT threshold of x, so that it only bashes the poshos and boomers down sizing.

They need to remove stamp duty for downsizers or the boomers won’t move on.

StillCreatingAName · 27/10/2025 23:24

We could happily sell our 4 bed home and move somewhere else in the country and buy a 10 bed castle.

All the best with your castle purchase, Rightmove for t’north is full of them just lingering on the market, waiting for someone from ‘the south’ to move here to escape the mansion taxes, which don’t apply anywhere here as we all live in tiny terraces in walking distance of t’mills.

1dayatatime · 27/10/2025 23:23

It's another badly thought through Labour policy of envy rather than a prudent tax policy.

How is it that a person with a £2 million house and a £1.5 million mortgage has to pay it but someone with a £1.2 million house doesn't.

If you want to raise tax revenue from housing then simply introduce CGT for main residence. You could even have it kicking in after a CGT threshold of x, so that it only bashes the poshos and boomers down sizing.

Lionfisher · 27/10/2025 23:07

The whole country has unearned property wealth, the point is that wealth is relative. And property is relative to the local market not the national market.

Tax should be relative too, especially on an asset that’s so driven by regionality.

If it comes in there will just be more and more people moving away from the tax to other areas of the country - like the north. Especially given how many people can work remotely.

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Leavesfalling · 27/10/2025 22:58

Just enjoy your unearned wealth. People from the north don't need to be shafted even more.

The whole mansion tax idea is rubbish anyway.