“Tax the wealthy” (RR budget) what does this even mean?

I think wealth means assets not related to income!

Means testing of pensions will never happen in the near future - it would be totally unfair to those who planned their financial future expecting a certain amount. The only way they could do it would be for people who had a really long runway to prepare and so it wouldn’t generate any immediate savings.

Believe me nobody would be happier than me if you chose to ignore me.

Believe me nobody would be happier than me if you chose to ignore me.

Yes that's all lovely but not what I was talking about before you decided to chip in. Make your own seperate point on what you wish to discuss and then we can see if we want to reply to you maybe?

I didn’t. I pointed out that public sector pensions are now based on career average, not final salary. You might have inferred an impact on cost but it was neither stated nor implied. I didn’t sneer at you either.

You chipped in on a discussion about pension liability for the public sector. Specifically that costs are coming down. I'm just asking for evidence. No problem if you just chipped in to say something for the sake of it.

This country voted for Brexit out of pure racism and xenophobia
Reform is only popular because of immigrant bashing, they have zero realistic economic policies

It will mean taxing people with the ‘broadest shoulders’, which is basically anyone not on benefits or who doesn’t work in the public sector. It will be taxing property, vehicles, lowering VAT threshold, more education taxes and removing some of salary sacrifice on pension contributions. By December, Rachel will have found another black hole and the cycle of the threats will begin again.

Reform are an absolute joke, can’t add up, are funded by nefarious interests, also have a leader who is a proven liar and has deliberately made many of the UK’s current problems worse and has no experience of actually doing anything useful: another lazy public school boy who is a self-interested, economically illiterate moron and an extremely dishonest, dangerous one at that. He has no intention or capability whatsoever of uniting the country behind a coherent roadmap towards a successful future.
I tend to see farage as a version of Jeremy Clarkson, but minus the huge 'bison' head and without the football stuffed up his jumper.

You chipped in on a discussion about pension liability for the public sector. Specifically that costs are coming down. I'm just asking for evidence. No problem if you just chipped in to say something for the sake of it.

How do you therefore explain Reform’s popularity?
I know your question wasn't addressed to me but I'd say the answer is 'populism'.

The problem is according to many on here is that the whole country has suddenly become racist. We were by most international metrics the least racist country in the world. But as soon as Labour got into power we suddenly (according to our Glorious Leader) all became far right racists. Goodness knows how Labour achieved that in only a year so so!

Anyway, that means that we now all have to vote Reform as they are the party that most corresponds with the ideals of most of the people, according to Keir Starmer. It's not the people's fault. It's Labour's.

This is my concern too. Most people would have absolutely no clue we earn over 115K. We don't have a fancy car or huge savings of a fancy house (to be fair it's a relatively recent thing) and we live in a fairly expensive area - but I think people on 30k think anyone earning this amount must be living the dream, have no financial worries and deserve to be taxed even more than we already are while we currently have absolutely no entitlement to benefits. It's too much of a burden for a small proportion of people to pay. I'm not saying we don't have a reasonable standard of living, we do, but equally we don't have tons of spare cash at the end of the month. I think I probably used to think 100k+ was very wealthy. Maybe it was 15-20 years ago, it isn't now.

The problem is that her poor decision making is creating the black holes now

if she spoils the markets and no one wants our gilts then that hole is just going to keep growing

if they punish people who save they are just quickening the death loop

European countries need to accept we’re not rich enough to have the life politicians promised and which ultimately has only been there for a very short period

people talk about the pension age as if it’s been that way for centuries but it’s a comparatively new thing. Same with the NHS.

I imagine they are going to hit high earners via income tax.

'hard working people' never includes anyone earning over £100k. Who seem to be the golden goose of this country.

It's a disgrace if they do but I wouldn't be surprised by anything Labour do.

Reform are an absolute joke, can’t add up, are funded by nefarious interests, also have a leader who is a proven liar and has deliberately made many of the UK’s current problems worse and has no experience of actually doing anything useful: another lazy public school boy who is a self-interested, economically illiterate moron and an extremely dishonest, dangerous one at that. He has no intention or capability whatsoever of uniting the country behind a coherent roadmap towards a successful future.
I tend to see farage as a version of Jeremy Clarkson, but minus the huge 'bison' head and without the football stuffed up his jumper.

I think one could make an argument for this but it would lead to a situation where only the elites were allowed to vote, in other words it would lead us away from democracy which of course is only the least worst option.🤦🏼‍♀️

The fact that anybody considers this odious toad as a prospective leader of our country shows have very low things have sunk.

as is the educational level of a significant proportion of the electorate who are happy to argue like rats in a sack over irrelevancies.

@PlanetMa Do you think people should have to take a test before being allowed to vote?

How do you therefore explain Reform’s popularity?
I know your question wasn't addressed to me but I'd say the answer is 'populism'.

Also that farage has a certain charisma (personally I find him repulsive) and he is a good con man, people identify with him and want to believe what he says.
As per trump, his 'base' comprises mostly those of low educational attainment, ie., people who are easy to fool.

What has that got to do with my post?