Do Brits generally approve of the new compulsory national digital ID?

So fraudsters will limit themselves to one type of fraud? There will be big big business on the dark Web getting round the ID system.

it’s pretty common to have an ID card, I’ve lived in countries where carrying them is compulsory without issue. It does feel that a digital card is skipping a step.

That said I suspect it’ll be handy for collecting parcels. I’m not really worried about privacy I think that ship sailed with smartphones. If I’m honest I think that as a boring, law abiding person it’ll have no impact on me, possibly the police might ask to see it if I was ever pulled over or in an accident.

I do wonder if it could be used to curb low level crime in future for example everyone would need to scan ID on way into supermarket to keep out known shoplifters. I suspect some people would think that’s unreasonable but I’ve seen so many blokes leg it out the door of the local Tescos clutching booze.

I'm not bothered about a card version but I don't really use apps on my phone and wouldn't want to use an app like this. I have no banking or financial apps on my phone or NHS app type things.

I don't but I'm retired so won't need it for work so can probably hold off having it, they will end up having to do a card version for those not online so I will eventually have one of those I suppose, I managed fine in Covid without having that track and trace app and still went out a lot. They keep saying it's just for work so why would I want one anyway, it can't be just for work and retired people need it.

I think its creepy and its potential for mis use is huge.

I think they will get it through in the anti immigration agenda.

I understand we already have id for things, but I dont think its all linked together and I hardly ever have to show it. I didnt have a passport for 10 years as I didnt travel.

Yes but it’s not held centrally.

imagine ‘soontobe60 has been to a lot of pubs recently, let’s restrict nhs services’ or they are out late we’d better put car insurance up. Digital id is very different to a physical id card

And guess what - here you are using the INTERNET!!!

Unless you only ever pay with cash, you’re already giving all those places you listed your digital ID via whatever method you pay with.

What on earth is ‘mission creep’?

Do you work for the post office?
Do you have a passport that uses facial recognition?
Is there a reasons someone might want to ‘hack’ you?

If it would lead to loss of freedoms, why haven’t those losses happened in Spain, Finland, Iceland etc?

Blimey, talk about hyperbole! Don’t be so dramatic. People thought the same about aeroplanes when they were first invented, and penicillin, electricity, TV and the World Wide Web.

Maybe you could detail all the personal freedoms that people in Iceland, Belgium, Finland or Spain have lost.

No.

1. Not everyone has a smart phone.
2. It would be to easy to hack & for someone to steal information.
3. The country cannot afford it.
4. Without sounding like the tinfoil hat brigade, no. Just no.

I think that if you have a passport or a driving licence that should be enough. OK with an ID card if you don't have one, there should be the option for it to be a physical card.

Not bothered either way except, of course, the ridiculous expense

i have a passport
a Gov account linked to my passport
it all there on a database
taxes
health
a card isn’t really that intrusive

I’d happily carry a physical ID card. But I’m not keen on everyone needing to have a smartphone for every single thing .

Yep.

2020 and 2021 was the warm up, the dress rehearsal. We were made to accept "checking in" when we went anywhere as a new normal.

I'm sure Tony Blair said in 1997 "I want every household to have the internet", back when it was a novelty to have the internet at home. That was step one of mission creep. He had foresight. In 2020, we saw how useful it was to the government (not to us) that almost everyone had the internet at home. Just like Trump talked about tariffs long before anyone thought he might be where he is now.

As for @youalright "Its about paranoia people seem to think everytime something new is announced the government is out to get them." Again, 2020. The year it was thrown into very sharp focus exactly how the government can utilise technology to "keep the public in line" when they see fit. We must TAKE NOTE. Remember that the man who is now prime minister had NOTHING to say against lockdown, and NOTHING to say about the harms our children suffered. His only complaint about lockdown was that it did not go far enough, and that it ever ended: in 2021, he was opposing easing any restrictions all the way. With digital ID, it might have been possible to actually prevent the public buying things they were not supposed to buy, such as Easter eggs. The govt knew most of lockdown was unenforceable, and so did the public (those who resisted the fear porn); but with digital ID, it might have been very different. I'm sure that digital ID will bring a resurgence of the phrase "new normal": new normal to check in everywhere you go, etc.

And I don't trust Farage any more with it either. He might be opposing the idea now, but he's two-faced: after all, there's no requirement for politicians in or out of government to tell the truth. As soon as it suits him, he'll back digital ID to the hilt. If Labour does introduce it, all the flak would be on them, rather than him, and whoever takes up government later can simply inherit it, oven-baked and ready, with no negative publicity at all.

We must keep talking about the negatives of this, in a way in which we were forbidden to talk about the negatives of lockdown while it was happening.

No not for me. I don’t want my every move tracked.

It’s possible that everywhere you go, places will start to ask for your digital ID.

entrance to clubs, trains, events, shops, every purchase etc.

This - remember how HS2 has gone?

The consultation part is going to start soon - how much will that cost? Then it has to be maintained each and every year.

One estimate is that it may cost £100 million a year to maintain ie not even the setting up of the system

All public money.

I would much rather the water companies were sorted out so that our rivers, lakes and beaches aren't polluted.

Also more affordable social housing for people paying high rents they can't afford.

Kier saying they’ll help control migration. It won’t.

What lies nothing has officially been announced everything you have read upto now has come from the media and people on social media

It’s valid concerns.

They are telling lies and it won’t achieve its purported purpose.

I mean I was suspicious that Tony Blair kept going on about ID cards being useful. And guess what? His son’s company has the contract. Curious that.

Its about paranoia people seem to think everytime something new is announced the government is out to get them.

Its about mission creep.

it’s all about who profits.

Lets not sleepwalk into this.