Do Brits generally approve of the new compulsory national digital ID?

Exactly, I know people in their 50s who don't. I know people in their 70s. Some just have tablets and laptops and old style mobile phones.

I'm always a bit cross with train lines that don't have chargers, so one always has to be careful to have phone on high charge for digital tickets

I’m glad you have what you are after but I’m ok without it.

There are more effective ways to control who is in the country. I don’t know how close your system is to Germany’s but they still have the highest number of unauthorised migrants anyway. There isn’t a link between a system and that number.

In Belgium the "digital ID" app doesn't hold all your data in one place - the central record has your name, address, DOB, civil status etc. You use the app to access your own records - health, finance, pension, bank account etc. My doctor doesn't have information on my finances. The app has multi factor authentication.
This month I have used my physical ID card to:

• go on holiday within Schengen
• pick up a parcel
• download the warranty for the new Ipad I bought.
• Can also be used for prescriptions, seeing the GP so I can claim back any costs etc. If you go to the hospital its the first thing they ask for. No health tourism here.

This month i have used the app to:

• Log into my online bank account
• Apply to continue my child benefit (as dd is at Uni and i have to renew the claim each year whilst she remains in FT education)
• Buy services cheques (to pay our cleaner) and make the payment to her (Belgium tries to cut down on cash in hand payments / black economy by incentivising people to work through agencies - and technically it's illegal to do otherwise)
• Download and pay my car tax
• Download and pay our tax bill
• Look at my pension statement
• In the past I have used it book parking lollipops for a house move, pay my parking permit and request a criminal record check for work. Also when at the accountant, she did our tax return and was able to get permission from dd to do hers (she wasn't there) by sending a request in the app.

When we moved house last year, the commune checked that we live where we say we do and the central record means the address is updated with govt agencies. Part of having ID is surely knowing who is in the country, where they live and what their status is. They also do spot checks on businesses to ensure there are no illegal workers.

I do not feel oppressed by any of this.
A lot of the nonsense being posted about mission creep is quite frankly ridiculous. GDPR means people who don't need your data can't hold it / access it. Information on your health / sexuality / religious / political beliefs etc is considered extremely sensitive and in no way can ever be used to stop you going into shops etc. Though I think no longer in EU, UK has to adhere to GDPR to do business in Europe.

I'm not really fussed about it, but considering the other priorities it would appear money could be better spent elsewhere.

I find that people who are worried about ID cards but are happy to carry a smart phone are the most bizarre idiots I've come across. It's the same people who are scared of vaccines but think nothing of taking drugs or having cosmetic surgery.

The phone we all carry tracks every thing you do, it records your conversations , logs your opinions, holds your bank details, holds health data, location details in real time....and really are you honestly worried about ID cards. A crime committed can easily be extracted from your phone whether it's a electronic crime or a real world one ...you phone has an access bridge that can be accessed by the police and the security services without you even knowing it. If a criminal commits a serious crime the Will look at cloud data on who was in the vicinity, they will then access CCTV to identify an individual and cross examine both. They will then look at your geocache data and search history....that's all without actually talking to you. By the time they arrest you it's a done deal

When did Finland introduce it? Was it a while back?

What controversies based on those concerns you posted have occurred in Finland? Because I live in Finland - the government cannot take money out of our accounts, it cannot stop us entering shops, it cannot suspend our access to the internet, so what has happened here?

I think actually tackling the unofficial economy which gives jobs that are attractive to people coming to this country compared with others would have as much of an impact.

Start with a simple one, no L plate delivery drivers.

Is that true or more misinformation.

Reading government information further the ID card is being developed by the Department for Science, Innovation and Technology.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/digital-id-scheme-explainer/digital-id-scheme-explainer

Euan Blairs company Mulitverse is provides coaching/learning, including apprentices’ to global companies.

https://www.multiverse.io/en-GB/about

it is not necessary as a way to control Illegal Migration. We need every organisation to apply the existing laws and regulations that we have. Then after that, assess what we have achieved and if necessary modify and apply Stricter Criteria.
No need to spend £6bn as they did before.

I think it’s a lack of knowledge or education of U.K. people.
1 they have no idea how many 30,000 is for example which is the number of boat people who have arrived this year. It is the population of my local town (with lots of schools,hospital et )
2 They have no idea that other countries have id cards and are happy with them but think everyone has fiddly passports which you e got to lug around hoping no one nicks your bag.
So they think boat people dont matter and I’d cards are scary

Biggest problem I have with it is how much it’s going to cost. And whatever is said it’s going to cost will be a fraction of the price, due to buggering about and unforeseen events.

Apparently people with ILR in this country have already got digital ID. I think if it is gradually increased year on year it could work well.

Totally fine, they do it in europe

I also don’t care, in fact I’ve never cared about an issue less

I have no issue with ID cards. They are common and very useful in many European countries with no sinister misuse.

There are some potential issues with it being digital only. If there is a non-digital option for those who need/prefer it then fine.

These posts are responded to by the wind up merchants and paranoid and why are you posting when other threads are available.

I have an ID card here in Italy where they are law, as in most countries. If anything it has made my life easier, especially now that we have digital ID cards. Same with my digital driving licence, and my right to remain card, I only need to carry my phone with my now, much better.

Of course AI to scan benefit recipients’ bank accounts. We’re already there.

Add a digital ID scheme, services, AI and we’ll see the leap in ability for tech and control.

I’ve been government vetted due to family/ dp job. Even my parents were checked. So quite a high level. However, I oppose ID cards.

Everyone on my social media appears to be up in arms about it but to be honest the idea of it doesn’t bother me. Admittedly the gov already has all my details due to my job, I’ve nothing to hide as I’m a squeaky clean type ordinary person and it would probably make my working life easier. If I lived a more contrary or libertarian life I might feel differently.

Agree with you.

It all becomes bastardised.

Allowing AI to scan bank accounts of those on UC might make some sense. But then the suggestion was to scan the accounts of anyone who pays into that UC recipients account too. Mission creep.

State sanctioned cyberattacks to destabilise UK and/or democracy is a real thing, let’s not forget.

I’m actually not a conspiracy theorist nor someone who automatically sees a dystopian future, but I find the idea of a digital ID card and the potential for threats, mission creep and abuse of power by the government makes me deeply uncomfortable.

This is what I don't get lots of people don't have smart phones.

Security for me is the main problem, and mission creep. But in an increasingly digital world I can see all the advantages, as long as it is safe. I found this article enlightening on how it’s used around the world, and the pros and cons.
https://www.beyondencryption.com/blog/countries-most-innovative-digital-id-systems

@Soontobe60

mission creep

noun
Gradual expansion of the objectives, scope, and/or cost of a military mission without careful planning.

There is also the cost... 1.2 billion pounds being touted. So, the way IT consultancy works here, that will expand to 6 billion for 70% delivery, with bug fixing done by the end user. And a large retainer for future enhancements. And the system having to be redone every few years because of mission creep - because is it really about making sure people are entitled to work in the UK... or Great Britain ( NI may have issues)?