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GimmieABreakOr3 · 27/09/2025 08:32

To be perfectly honest, and I’m not sure how many people are truly willing to admit this but I think this country is in such a dire state of ruin that I don’t think any of the political parties are competent enough to improve it. To really get this country back up and running, I think it’s going to take years and a cross party approach.

TooTooMuchEverything · 26/09/2025 23:00

Of course 1,000,000 children don’t go hungry! That’s a gross over exaggeration. 1,000,000 dc don’t have a healthy diet but frankly, I’m not surprised. Unless we have growth in the economy, we will not have more money. If people don’t want to work, they don’t have enough money. Labour govt knows more people should be working but many MPs don’t agree.

This is where I got the 1million figure from. ( I was being a bit lazy - especially writing ‘going hungry’ )

British Medical Journal

“The latest data show the alarming reality faced by children in the UK: an average of 2.4 million children a month (or 17% of all children) were living in food insecure homes during 2022-23.1 An additional 10% were living in homes with marginal food security. These figures, collated with reference to experiences over 30 days, reflected a rise of almost a million more children living in homes with marginal food security or worse since 2019-20.

Growth in UK children living in households with food insecurity

These children are at risk of poor physical, emotional, mental, and social outcomes In March 2024, the UK’s Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) reported new data on household food insecurity for 2022-23 as part of its official statistics on poverty...

https://www.bmj.com/content/385/bmj.q997

OhDear111 · 26/09/2025 22:47

@TooTooMuchEverything The media got fixated by Brexit. So we got Brexit. Now it’s immigration so Farage worked out he’d better get on the immigration bandwagon. Sadly we have the one cell brain folk who do follow what the media reports and can only manage to think about one issue. They probably don’t have dc in education and don’t have much wrong with them in terms of using NHS. They have housing and enough cash for booze and a tv with 1000 channels, just in case they miss Trump saying something.

Of course 1,000,000 children don’t go hungry! That’s a gross over exaggeration. 1,000,000 dc don’t have a healthy diet but frankly, I’m not surprised. Unless we have growth in the economy, we will not have more money. If people don’t want to work, they don’t have enough money. Labour govt knows more people should be working but many MPs don’t agree.

TooTooMuchEverything · 26/09/2025 21:08

I will vote reform because I think they are the only party that will stop mass immigration. And that's enough for me

So you are a single issue voter. What about the issues of health. Education, housing, inflation, cost of utilities, 1,000,000 children going hungry daily, and so on. As well as the fact that a very few wealthy people are worth more -own more - than 60% of rest of the population - last I looked.

People migrating to Britain doing the jobs that no one else wants is not a problem in my book. They work in the hospitals, they care for the elderly and so on, the taxes they pay go into the public pot just like yours.

TooTooMuchEverything · 26/09/2025 20:49

There’s a couple of things we should be aware of.

The Heritage Foundation - which brought Project 25 to American politics. People should have a look at Project 25. At least its summary page. Available on the internet. Trump’s Administration is made up of members of Project 25. Despite the fact that he denied knowing what Project 25 was back in 2024 just prior to their election. The Heritage Foundation was at the UK anti immigration rallies. It’s been steadily increasing its network and influence since the early 50s - In America, but also in the UK and in other countries.

Project 25 are connected to British The Henry Jackson Society for example. Farage and others are connected to the HJS.

it’s all worth a quick browse on your search machine.

America’s government is currently setting about destabilizing half the world. At a time when countries should be uniformly working together to minimize the effects of global warming. The single biggest threat to our existence. 97% of Scientists agree on this: The other 3% are overwhelmingly funded by big business to tell us it’s all okay.

I’m old and due to that and illness, I’ll likely not be around to see the beginning of the worst of the climate crisis. But my children will be. And my young grandchildren.

Livelovebehappy · 26/09/2025 19:03

clipboardz · 26/09/2025 15:53

If they do win i hope people who dont want him in number 10 put the blame at the feet of where it should sit. The incompetent Labour and Tory parties.

people need to take responsibility for being idiots too.

But if a majority vote Reform, then they're not all 'idiots'. Surely it's just proving that the ones voting elsewhere are probably missing something. And as the others are presumably sticking by the clueless Labour governnent, then it could be argued who are really the idiots here.

Nellieinthebarn · 26/09/2025 18:20

Also, the next election is probably years away, if a week is a long time in politics, 4 years is an age. Who knows what the issues will be by then, immigration might be the least of our worries.

yellowspanner · 26/09/2025 18:10

I will vote reform because I think they are the only party that will stop mass immigration. And that's enough for me

Nellieinthebarn · 26/09/2025 18:04

That's the trouble with democracy, you sometimes get what other people vote for. I wasn't particularly thrilled with Brexit, or this government, or the last one come to that. But if you support having democratic process you have to lump it if it doesn't go the way you want. Like with free speech, you cannot pick and choose who gets it, or it isn't free speech any more.

DramaLlamacchiato · 26/09/2025 16:40

Also Farage is a lazy bastard

He can’t even be arsed to do his MP job far less the PM

clipboardz · 26/09/2025 16:38

Everyone knows immigration is an issue. However solving it is very complex and certainly won't be cheap.

DramaLlamacchiato · 26/09/2025 16:36

TheNoonBell · 26/09/2025 10:24

They are only going to get more popular as they are the only ones willing to address mass immigration.

They say they are willing to

They won’t actually do anything

Words are cheap

LarkspurLane · 26/09/2025 16:25

I don't think Reform will deal with immigration at all. Farage doesn't actually care about that. He just wants to be in power.
He has no more of a plan than the current government.

He has to rely on the group of voters who will just stick their cross in the Reform box, regardless of who the MP is, where they live, what criminal convictions they have. So he will continue to speak on popular issues whatever they are. It might be a whole other bunch of scapegoats in three years time.

MissyB1 · 26/09/2025 16:11

clipboardz · 26/09/2025 15:55

IMO the reform vote is a ‘none of the above’ rather than a positive endorsement of them.

Have people learnt nothing from Brexit? 🤦🏻‍♀️

They have learned nothing sadly, they want to continue falling for lies and bullshit.

clipboardz · 26/09/2025 15:55

IMO the reform vote is a ‘none of the above’ rather than a positive endorsement of them.

Have people learnt nothing from Brexit? 🤦🏻‍♀️

clipboardz · 26/09/2025 15:53

If they do win i hope people who dont want him in number 10 put the blame at the feet of where it should sit. The incompetent Labour and Tory parties.

people need to take responsibility for being idiots too.

estellacandance · 26/09/2025 15:48

IMO the reform vote is a ‘none of the above’ rather than a positive endorsement of them.

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1dayatatime · 26/09/2025 13:54

EasternStandard · 26/09/2025 13:38

Yes I agree with you there. The only bit was the ‘in defence of Starmer…’ part I don’t think he can be outside this, it’s him too, it’s mostly him as PM. Other than that completely agree.

I would pin part of the blame on his backbenchers but in any event it is still the "Labour Government " who are to blame.

EasternStandard · 26/09/2025 13:38

1dayatatime · 26/09/2025 13:34

But he stalled economic growth by increasing taxes in particular NI increases. Cutting spending wasn't possible due to Labour backbenchers saying they would vote against the spending cuts.

Unfortunately the slow down in economic growth has led to a reduction in taxes receipts which will lead to further tax rises and slower economic growth again and so on in a fiscal doom loop.

Yes I agree with you there. The only bit was the ‘in defence of Starmer…’ part I don’t think he can be outside this, it’s him too, it’s mostly him as PM. Other than that completely agree.

1dayatatime · 26/09/2025 13:34

EasternStandard · 26/09/2025 13:24

It’s not just that and he hasn’t helped himself by stalling growth with the last budget. They’ve snookered themselves. And then the rhetoric which is ramping up around ID etc isn’t going to help.

But he stalled economic growth by increasing taxes in particular NI increases. Cutting spending wasn't possible due to Labour backbenchers saying they would vote against the spending cuts.

Unfortunately the slow down in economic growth has led to a reduction in taxes receipts which will lead to further tax rises and slower economic growth again and so on in a fiscal doom loop.

EasternStandard · 26/09/2025 13:24

1dayatatime · 26/09/2025 13:00

In defence of Starmer he is in an impossible situation. He can't cut spending because of his backbenchers, he can't borrow more money because of the reluctance of the money markets and when he increases taxes it just slows the economy further requiring even more tax rises.

It’s not just that and he hasn’t helped himself by stalling growth with the last budget. They’ve snookered themselves. And then the rhetoric which is ramping up around ID etc isn’t going to help.

1dayatatime · 26/09/2025 13:00

EasternStandard · 26/09/2025 12:47

Interesting. The more Starmer pisses people off the more go to Reform.

In defence of Starmer he is in an impossible situation. He can't cut spending because of his backbenchers, he can't borrow more money because of the reluctance of the money markets and when he increases taxes it just slows the economy further requiring even more tax rises.

ninjahamster · 26/09/2025 12:51

In some ways I hope they do get in just so that people then realise how inexperienced they are and exactly what they’ve voted for. They’ve not costed policies, they’re trying entirely on immigration. They’ve will decimate the nhs.

EasternStandard · 26/09/2025 12:47

Interesting. The more Starmer pisses people off the more go to Reform.

KnickerlessParsons · 26/09/2025 12:39

It’s not about the number of people who’d vote Reform though, it’s about the number of constituencies that elect a Reform MP.
An entirely different thing.