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What is it that riles people up about immigration so much?

281 replies

Am99 · 21/09/2025 16:39

I’m really curious at why some people get so annoyed over immigrants. Sure, I’m all for LEGAL migration no matter where the immigrant comes from and I agree that migration should be controlled / monitored to ensure criminals aren’t entering without a solid work purpose. My maternal grandparents were from Jamaica and they worked so hard.

I’m always so happy to see any doctor / nurse in the NHS whether they’re Indian, African, Caribbean, English and I couldn’t ever imagine getting so upset and angry about their ethnicity. I also don’t understand why people get so angry about asylum seekers being temporarily housed in hotels whilst they await their decision

Why are people so annoyed about migrants being housed in hotels? How can they actually be affected by it? On the news it looks like they’re being accommodated at Holiday Inns, not exactly anywhere where the typical Brit would take a staycation. It’s pretty mundane and boring. It’s not The Ritz.

I work, pay my taxes but it doesn’t bother me in the slightest if my tax goes towards that because tax is inevitable and something we never see. It’s just so unavoidable so why complain? I guess it’s like my student loan. Equally, how come these people aren’t annoyed that our taxes can fund royal house renovations or their security etc… I don’t see people protesting outside Buckingham palace? Also what about council housing in the UK? I don’t see people protesting about the fact the council literally gives subsidised housing to brits because they can’t afford it? I’m not sure if the tax payers money go towards this (I might need to educate myself on it) but surely that’s a bigger burden on taxpayers money.

I understand the argument that a country might lose its ‘identity’ with mass immigration. I saw a video with someone saying Japan is Japan because it’s more enough wholly Japanese. India is India because it’s wholly Indian. I get it to some extent, maybe we aren’t typically white and British like we were 59 years ago; but it’s still not enough to convince me that immigration is negative because what would actually happen if we did take all of the ‘foreigners’ outside of the NHS, TFL, cleaners etc etc … I wonder if they’d be enough Brits to fill their spaces? This isn’t sarcastic, I’m curious if anyone knows the answer

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sleepwouldbenice · 21/09/2025 22:50

Inastatus · 21/09/2025 22:42

@sleepwouldbenice - I didn’t say it was a one stop resolution but surely any fool can see that placing a limit on the thousands of extra non entitled people per week might help a little?

Its not 1000s a week. I am not a fool.

Happyjoe · 21/09/2025 22:50

Inastatus · 21/09/2025 22:38

Do you though? Obviously dodging an important question. The intimidating men in our local town are a serious threat to mine.

It's not an important question, it is your fears not facts asking and you are just trying to point score when none to be had imo. Your daughter is more likely to be harmed by someone they know than an asylum seeker, that is your perceived threat.

I fear the Andrew Tates of this world, the Wayne Cousins a whole lot more for the safety of women and girls, sexual harassment is on the rise. Not to say that I agree with housing people who we know little about in communities but the reality is often less troublesome than the worry. For example, Bell hotel that kicked off - they've been housing asylum and homeless for years, until that once incident with the young girl of him trying to kiss/grope her. How many women or girls have been subject to unwanted touching in Epping by people who are not asylum seekers? I tell you what, at least that man is going to jail for it, which is more than can be said for a lot of sexual predators. I never saw any outrage by people when those other women were attacked tho, did you?

https://www.police.uk/pu/your-area/essex-police/epping-and-ongar/?tab=Statistics

CheeseyOnionPie · 21/09/2025 22:49

BareGrylls · 21/09/2025 18:59

It's lack of integration that concerns me. Not so much who they are or where from. Though I admit I'd prefer to see women and children from war torn countries than single men.
I grew up in an area which saw a big influx of immigration in the post war years from Poland, Ukraine and the Carribbean. Later the Ugandans who were expelled. Still friends with many of them now. All embraced the British way of life and blended in.
The thing about immigration now is people living in enclaves of their old country.

Sorry but do you really blame them for sticking together given the anti-migrant feeling?

One of the main reasons that many people who came to the UK in the 60s / 70s / 80s ended up living nearby each other is because if they moved to a “white area” their homes were attacked with racist graffiti, dog shit (or worse) put through their letter box and they were constantly abused, told to go home and made to feel completely unsafe. Their children were bullied and life was made a living hell. I’ve heard countless stories from friends whose parents lived through this.

sleepwouldbenice · 21/09/2025 22:48

Inastatus · 21/09/2025 22:35

They are given a lot more than some of our own homeless in need. My nephew tried to return here after a few years abroad and was told he could not claim any benefits despite being a tax payer for years before he left.
It’s the numbers though - thousands weekly. How is anyone not concerned by that?

I have not said it I am not concerned. I think genuine, fact driven, considered discussions and actions on both legal and illegal immigration is essential. The problems will only get worse with climate change

I just hate the vitriol that comes with it and the idea that its the root of all our problems...And the lies, misinformation and distorted facts

And again when you say 1000s a week. On average its not. 38k ÷ 52 is not 1000s.

Inastatus · 21/09/2025 22:42

@sleepwouldbenice - I didn’t say it was a one stop resolution but surely any fool can see that placing a limit on the thousands of extra non entitled people per week might help a little?

Signalbox · 21/09/2025 22:40

Happyjoe · 21/09/2025 22:04

A lot of hotels were not thriving or even being used tho, before being taken over. I used to live near Epping 17 years ago and remember the Bell hotel, it was empty pretty much! So would you rather people didn't get a council home?

You think it’s ok to treat people like this then? Are the people who object to their weddings being cancelled at short notice racist bigots too?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14081721/amp/Now-hotel-cancels-weddings-make-room-asylum-seekers.html

Now hotel cancels weddings to make room for asylum seekers

The Best Western Cresta Court Hotel in Altrincham - owned by a group chaired by former BBC director-general Greg Dyke - was closed to paying guests on Monday.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14081721/amp/Now-hotel-cancels-weddings-make-room-asylum-seekers.html

ThisCalmLimeZebra · 21/09/2025 22:38

Happyjoe · 21/09/2025 22:34

Did you really just give me something from a GB news presenter as a fact? Even says 'could' not will? Can you please find something from someone who is neutral? Thanks.

Edited

Yep sorry, see below. You are acting like this is news to you or is controversial in some way. Did you think it would be later or earlier?

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/immigration-report-minority-white-british-goodwin-b2766293.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_Kingdom

Who cares that Britain is on course to be ‘minority white’?

As a study of migration, birth and death rates in the UK points to the white British population becoming a minority by 2063, Anand Menon says the only debate it ought to spark is not about immigration, but integration

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/immigration-report-minority-white-british-goodwin-b2766293.html

Inastatus · 21/09/2025 22:38

Happyjoe · 21/09/2025 22:27

Nice try.

Do you though? Obviously dodging an important question. The intimidating men in our local town are a serious threat to mine.

sleepwouldbenice · 21/09/2025 22:37

Inastatus · 21/09/2025 22:01

So an extra 38k people a year for our already struggling NHS, education and housing system to deal with. You don’t think that’s an issue!?

It's one factor in a much much longer list. Underfunding in general, critical recruitment issues, aging population with increased acuity etc etc
It really isn't the one stop resolution that you are told it is

Happyjoe · 21/09/2025 22:36

Shellyash · 21/09/2025 22:31

30k illegal immigrants year to date is a average size community, UK doesn't have the space or resources for this year on year. 180k since 2018. It is destroying the country.
Legal ok, but we live in a small land so needs control

We have by far more legal immigrants than illegal. Over a million a year migrated to the UK until last year. This surely has far more an impact on our infrastructure? All of that is 'controlled'.

Inastatus · 21/09/2025 22:35

sleepwouldbenice · 21/09/2025 22:26

You exaggerated all aspects implying they are given a wonderful welcome

They are given a lot more than some of our own homeless in need. My nephew tried to return here after a few years abroad and was told he could not claim any benefits despite being a tax payer for years before he left.
It’s the numbers though - thousands weekly. How is anyone not concerned by that?

YelloDaisy · 21/09/2025 22:35

People naively think the immigrants are one homogenous group who will settle into U.K. life given the chance - the Sunni and Shia Muslims have centuries long antagonism, arranged marriages, female genital mutilialtion in parts of Africa, Hindu / Muslim problems in Kashmir, etc We still have Protestant /Catholic sectarianism in parts of Scotland. It’s insane to allow huge numbers in as you also import their existing problems.

Happyjoe · 21/09/2025 22:34

ThisCalmLimeZebra · 21/09/2025 22:30

Well the white British demographic change is a fact, I guess the timeline is up for debate + or - a few years. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/britain-s-identity-crisis-white-british-to-become-minority-by-2063-as-immigration-surges/ar-AA1G6foI?ocid=bingnews&apiversion=v2&noservercache=1&domshim=1&renderwebcomponents=1&wcseo=1&batchservertelemetry=1&noservertelemetry=1

The ethnic sectarianism is a prediction, would you not agree it’s heading that way?

Did you really just give me something from a GB news presenter as a fact? Even says 'could' not will? Can you please find something from someone who is neutral? Thanks.

Shellyash · 21/09/2025 22:31

30k illegal immigrants year to date is a average size community, UK doesn't have the space or resources for this year on year. 180k since 2018. It is destroying the country.
Legal ok, but we live in a small land so needs control

sleepwouldbenice · 21/09/2025 22:31

Lemonandorangecheescake · 21/09/2025 21:57

I'll let you think about it.

I dont need to think about it. Although of course the number should be less, I understand numbers and statistics very well and I know that life in the UK wouldn't miraculously turn around if it was nil

Happyjoe · 21/09/2025 22:27

Inastatus · 21/09/2025 22:26

@Happyjoe - do you have a daughter?

Nice try.

Inastatus · 21/09/2025 22:26

@Happyjoe - do you have a daughter?

sleepwouldbenice · 21/09/2025 22:26

Inastatus · 21/09/2025 21:56

@sleepwouldbenice - I didn’t say the hotels are 4*. They are given phones albeit via charities, they are given money. Not peddling rubbish. There are thousands coming in every week and 1 or 2 being sent back, clearly it is not sustainable.

You exaggerated all aspects implying they are given a wonderful welcome

Happyjoe · 21/09/2025 22:26

Inastatus · 21/09/2025 22:15

@Happyjoe Of course, I 100% blame the governments. Who else would be responsible ?

Thankyou, people are standing outside shouting at hotels whereas they should be shouting at governments!

Happyjoe · 21/09/2025 22:24

ThisCalmLimeZebra · 21/09/2025 22:17

Nigel Farage is a symptom. Once the baby boomers start to die off, white British people are on the way to becoming the largest minority rather than a majority which will take around 30 years. Politics will inevitably veer towards ethnic sectarianism, I’ve got a feeling you’ll be looking back on Farage with warm fuzzy feelings compared to what happens over the next 3 decades,

None of this is based on facts.

Happyjoe · 21/09/2025 22:24

Chiseltip · 21/09/2025 22:08

Because people like to be surrounded by "their own kind". And some people see immigration as a threat to the "safety" a homogeneous society provides.

Also, some people are very proud of their heritage and the sense of identity and connection they feel through that identity. Consequently, they feel anxious that their heritage, the identity of the culture they associate with, is going to be irreparably changed if large numbers of "foreign" people move to their country.

Would Japan still be "Japanese" if 20% of the population were made up of people who weren't born there and weren't ethnically Asian?

To some, these are very important issues. You might disagree or not share their concerns, but that doesn't make those concerns any less valid.

I agree with your first part, it's human nature to fear a stranger but we should allow reason to overcome this.

Your second paragraph, nobody has been able to really truly explain what heritage and identity means in the UK. Just get trite such as 'well, it's fish n chips innit'. (Neither of those foods originated in the UK). I'd love to know what both of those things really are.

Third, yes of course it would still be Japanese. Why wouldn't it be?

No, concerns are valid and should be listened to, but also the reverse too. When things explained in a truthful, factual manner people don't want to hear it.

ThisCalmLimeZebra · 21/09/2025 22:17

Happyjoe · 21/09/2025 22:00

It's not the concern over immigration that makes people say 'racist' or 'thick', it's the reasons given for concern that are actually based on racism or lies.

Nigel Farage has been pulled up on lies a fair few times. Do his followers care? No. Farage doesn't care either because job done, lies told so many times it becomes people's truths, this is scary. We, as a country, are overdue some decent politicians quite frankly.

Nigel Farage is a symptom. Once the baby boomers start to die off, white British people are on the way to becoming the largest minority rather than a majority which will take around 30 years. Politics will inevitably veer towards ethnic sectarianism, I’ve got a feeling you’ll be looking back on Farage with warm fuzzy feelings compared to what happens over the next 3 decades,

Inastatus · 21/09/2025 22:15

Happyjoe · 21/09/2025 22:07

Wouldn't it be nice if the government processed their claims faster than... years?
Blame lies with governments.

@Happyjoe Of course, I 100% blame the governments. Who else would be responsible ?

Chiseltip · 21/09/2025 22:08

Am99 · 21/09/2025 16:39

I’m really curious at why some people get so annoyed over immigrants. Sure, I’m all for LEGAL migration no matter where the immigrant comes from and I agree that migration should be controlled / monitored to ensure criminals aren’t entering without a solid work purpose. My maternal grandparents were from Jamaica and they worked so hard.

I’m always so happy to see any doctor / nurse in the NHS whether they’re Indian, African, Caribbean, English and I couldn’t ever imagine getting so upset and angry about their ethnicity. I also don’t understand why people get so angry about asylum seekers being temporarily housed in hotels whilst they await their decision

Why are people so annoyed about migrants being housed in hotels? How can they actually be affected by it? On the news it looks like they’re being accommodated at Holiday Inns, not exactly anywhere where the typical Brit would take a staycation. It’s pretty mundane and boring. It’s not The Ritz.

I work, pay my taxes but it doesn’t bother me in the slightest if my tax goes towards that because tax is inevitable and something we never see. It’s just so unavoidable so why complain? I guess it’s like my student loan. Equally, how come these people aren’t annoyed that our taxes can fund royal house renovations or their security etc… I don’t see people protesting outside Buckingham palace? Also what about council housing in the UK? I don’t see people protesting about the fact the council literally gives subsidised housing to brits because they can’t afford it? I’m not sure if the tax payers money go towards this (I might need to educate myself on it) but surely that’s a bigger burden on taxpayers money.

I understand the argument that a country might lose its ‘identity’ with mass immigration. I saw a video with someone saying Japan is Japan because it’s more enough wholly Japanese. India is India because it’s wholly Indian. I get it to some extent, maybe we aren’t typically white and British like we were 59 years ago; but it’s still not enough to convince me that immigration is negative because what would actually happen if we did take all of the ‘foreigners’ outside of the NHS, TFL, cleaners etc etc … I wonder if they’d be enough Brits to fill their spaces? This isn’t sarcastic, I’m curious if anyone knows the answer

Because people like to be surrounded by "their own kind". And some people see immigration as a threat to the "safety" a homogeneous society provides.

Also, some people are very proud of their heritage and the sense of identity and connection they feel through that identity. Consequently, they feel anxious that their heritage, the identity of the culture they associate with, is going to be irreparably changed if large numbers of "foreign" people move to their country.

Would Japan still be "Japanese" if 20% of the population were made up of people who weren't born there and weren't ethnically Asian?

To some, these are very important issues. You might disagree or not share their concerns, but that doesn't make those concerns any less valid.

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