What is it that riles people up about immigration so much?

32109 arrived by last Friday (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdx20xenzgqo.amp) and there has been 37 weeks so far which is 867 people per week.

I clearly differentiated between illegal and legal immigration, do you think an extra 71 thousand people every month is sustainable?

@Happyjoe and @sleepwouldbenice , to you especially, doesn't it concern you that the people coming over on boats are mainly young men?

I assume you'll probably answer with the same old line we hear all the time that 'it's because the men are stronger, fitter and they've more chance of survival and intend to bring their families over when they're safe and settled'.

But do you really believe this? Maybe many of the women have young children, and don't feel able to travel good distances with them, but what about the young women with no children, for example, why aren't they amongst the men on the boats do you think?
When I think back to being in my 20's (pre children), I'd have had the physical ability and the determination to travel alongside men to reach safety if it was necessary, so why aren't those young women doing the same?, especially if they're trying to flee to safety like we're being told?
If anyone responds with 'the women stay to look after their mothers and family members whilst the men go to find a place to live for everyone', well that surely wouldn't account for basically every female would it?

Men are leaving women behind who could travel just as easily as them, why?
That concerns me, and in a few more years when there's thousands more young men arriving on our shores by boat illegally, our own men will be outnumbered,

Yes, needs control. 1m a year is too many, this isn't racist or anti, we live on a relatively small island and don't have the space or resources to take unlimited migrants.

It's the cost.

The thing that bothers me the most is seeing those poor people coming across in those boats. It has to be stopped, people including children are drowning and it’s awful. Those gangs running these boat runs have to be stopped. It’s pathetic that it’s still happening.

I can't whip up much enthusiasm to chime in on a thread that already has 100 responses, so I'll just say this:

Conservatives generally are very paranoid, very fearful. The worry about being "replaced" by people they consider "lesser." They worry about losing there supremacy. They worry that others are coming after their possessions - most especially coming after their money, in terms of taxation. They worry about change.

Of course, this is especially weird in America, because basically we're ALL descended from immigrants, except the small percentage of Native American Indians.

Did you read all of this?

Migrants who intend to work hard, pay more in tax than they take out and accept the dominant culture of the country they move to and live within it are very welcome by almost everyone. Many people don’t like those they think come here to take what they can, live in ghettos and try to change the fabric of the nation in negative ways.

I was unemployed for the first time in my life for a few months when I moved to Leeds to be with my love a fair few years ago now. I'd been self-employed for a long long time but when I tried to claim some help while looking for another job, it was refused (other than £8 a week for my NI payments) because I'd not paid the right amount of NI. The thing is, when self-employed can only pay one type of NI !!

Do I blame asylum seekers for this? No. Do I resent them for getting a hotel room? No. If anything to resent it's the system. However, there is absolutely nothing to say that if there were no asylum seekers costing the UK money that I would've been able to claim, or your nephew would've got anything. Would there be fewer homeless people in need? Probably not. Comparisons like this, while kind of understandable are not actually relevant.

Thank you for starting a thread of reason @Am99

Some people's comments are ..

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Interesting

Stupidity will out!

Its not just under 1000, its considerably under 1000, and definitely not 1000s ( plural). I agree its going up again
We were again discussing illegal migration so now trying to flip to talk about legal and illegal migration is disingenuous at best

The hotel would have probably closed anyway
I said that it was crap for them but its really not a major cause of nationwide resentment is it?

No it’s just under 1000 a week illegal immigration and 15 500 a week regular immigration this year so far, about 71 000 a month,

There is so much made up crap in this post its not even worth a response
And this is what I really can't stand. The utter bullshit

Why is that immigration fault, and not the fault of the greedy hotel owner? Am struggling to see the connection here in this thread about immigrants.
So, to play devil's advocate for a moment, if a hotel isn't an immigration hotel and goes bust, just like many places up and down the country at the moment, that an acceptable reason to you for them cancelling a wedding last moment? I daresay the Daily Mail wouldn't have written about it.

I don’t think the Mail will have made the story up but If you can’t bring yourself to click on the link that’s up to you. Pp asked why people are upset and then dismissed the answer because “the hotels are struggling anyway”. Of course treating people like shit is going to make them resentful. People plan for years to have the perfect wedding and to have that taken away at the last moment would be devastating. OP has asked why people are “riled up”. Well who wouldn’t be riled up if this happened to them or a member of their family?

I won't click the daily hate either. But, which pays more? Being a hotel or being paid by government? It's a business. Yes, sad for the couple of course, not fair, but this is the hotel owners issue, not the immigrants, the hotel owner is using them as a cash cow opportunity.

9/11 changed the world.
Followed by 7/7 on our own soil carried out by homegrown terrorists.

Prior to this overt racism was contained a small section of the population whose views were based on nothing but ill educated historical prejudice.
The majority of society thought of them as fringe nutters and generally the country was tolerant and life was peaceful.

After these dreadful attacks that changed irrevocably.

Many people felt we had nursed a viper in our breast.
It was beyond belief that young british people, educated, housed and looked after here after their parents had come over as immigrants were prepared to carry out mass murder against us in the name of islam.

There are of course financial pressures which make people think immigrants should be excluded when they, as british citizens, are not getting their needs and rights met.

Also the clash of cultures, most especially archaic attitudes to women.

I don’t think everybody who is worried about immigration is far right or racist at all, but certainly the actual racists are gleefully exploiting the situation.

But without islamic terrorism I think the far right would not find such fertile ground.

Wow, why isn't this all over the news? Jumping on teenage girls in the streets, raping them? What, on the street? Thousands of cases you say? Why am I only hearing about it on mumsnet? And majority are pedophiles??
Sharia law forced on us? When did that start, I must have missed it??

And seriously if true, I do hope you called the police if your daughter was being filmed by a man hiding in the hedges. It's not illegal to film anyone out on a public place in the UK, but hiding in hedges is suss.

Maybe the locals should've used the hotel more for it to survive..

Well done!! Not surprising that it peaked on a sunny day....
But on average....its really not 1000s a week is it!!? Try harder

Do you think the mail is maybe just a little biased....?
I am not going to click on any link of theirs. Of course its crap to have your wedding cancelled but the hotel simply can't have been making much money otherwise it would have stayed as a hotel

Agreed.

And who can forget the sign in the window, No Irish, no blacks, no dogs?

People have not changed at all, other than for the worse.

1072 people crossed on Friday