Left wingers seem as bad as right wingers

Half of them got convictions for domestic violence? What,like the half of immigrants who are violent rapists or terrorists?

Pull your head out of your arse.

It doesn’t have to be about who’s ‘worse’. However, I agree with you that the supposedly tolerant left don’t always cover themselves in glory. Some of the responses to Luigi Mangione and Charlie Kirk are two examples of moral compasses gone very wrong indeed. The left also has an antisemitism problem.

And as pp have said, anyone who thinks people on the left don’t intimidate and threaten women, they haven’t been paying attention to the trans debate.

Politics is too tribal, and tribalism makes people justify, say and do things they ought to know are wrong.

The complete and utter contempt and disdain the Left ( seemingly now a place occupied by middle class, degree holding folk ) have for the working class was revealed in all it's ugliness during the Brexit debate,and certainly after the referendum. I, as a bit of an EU loving lefty ( at that time ) was hugely disappointed. It was truly vile. And very illuminating.

😂. Centrist doesn't exist for normal people like us, I'm afraid.

They can’t fathom that some little old lady might be intimidated when the hotel up the road is filled with young men who hang around on the streets in gangs.

Might the same little old lady also be intimidated by a crowd of coked-up shaven-headed blokes with England flags and cans of Stella, and about half of them having convictions for domestic violence, chanting racist slogans towards the hotel?

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One of your ‘tolerant left’ just put a bullet through a young mans neck. In front of his wife and children. Have a word with yourself.

Let's look at the MANY, MANY, MANY members of your intolerant right murdering innocent kids at their schools, people worshipping in churches, a Democrat and her husband and even their dog recently. Let's not forget Dumpy Trump's ICE thugs violently kidnapping innocent people with no due process splitting up their families and literally leaving kids crying lost in the streets, your far right lunatics setting up an alligator auschwitz CONCENTRATION CAMP and literally salivating and laughing at the thought of alligators eating people and all the people in Gaza that the right supports killing.

Have a word with yourself and what you support.

Just no. Absolutely not, no truth in that. But this seems to be the new tactic of the far right to hide their atrocities behind lies about the left. And people blindly follow it. Hateful Nigel will be the next PM as a result, then we’re all screwed

It would bother me if my friends were posting things like that too. I am in agreement that some changes need to be made to immigration. But right now, the racist rhetoric is winning.

I've been horrified and disgusted at all the left wing pp in America making cruel, gloating posts and videos about the murder of Charlie Kirk in America. No one deserves to be murdered for their views. Ever. And then you see them defacing tributes to him or disrupting vigils for him. If that is the state of the current left, then count me out as they have lost all humanity.

Far left Chairman Mao and Stalin
Far Right Hitler
Either scenario I'm toast! Give me a moderate centrist society anyday with a large dose of democracy and free speech. Also manners, I like manners.

We would all probably be considered too right or too left by others. I prefer to discuss the details of what people say they want rather than the theory and the grand ideas.

So if you’re proudly leftist. What would you do if you got in to power? What policies? And no ‘make the rich pay and make everyone be excellent to each other’ stuff. The actual actions you would take? The new laws? I find the left rarely have the detail or the answers but want the virtue points.

Far Right and Far Left - there is no difference between them

they don't accept any opinions other than their own
they are intolerant and bigoted
they like the sound of their own voice far too much
they lack the ability to appreciate nuance
they are complete bores and I'm glad I don't inhabit their world because it's utterly miserable and oppressive. Give me peace of mind any day.

I just can’t imagine, whatever happened to me, a place where I would think Trump was a good option.

The left’s agenda is literally about helping those people. It’s not the left that’s pushing them away, it’s the right wing brainwashing that that’s what the left are saying and doing. But as I’ve said before, I think we’ll need to hit rock bottom before that’s realised and possibly not even then. The ship is going down with the left and right wing onboard with the right-wing rich looking on from the shore. Not even looking on, they’ll be laughing and playing golf.

I couldn’t agree more

Have never been? The lesson of
history is that humanity is capable of absolute horror from all ideological perspectives, but never more so than when certain they have virtue on their side.

The Left hate ABBA!

The left (or ‘The Far Left’, as they should be called since they call anyone who is NOT left ‘The Far Right’ are far worse.

There are plenty of "poor" not protesting, and plenty of "rich". And the people protesting have never been particularly quiet. They are not one and the same.

The left champions social equality, and policies which they feel would acheive this (along with many other things), this would benefit "the poor". You can believe someone is a racist, and still believe in social equality, the right to freedom, healthcare and education etc for those people. You can belive people you deem racist are entitled to equality. You are conflating a political view with a personal opinion on an individual person. No leftist person has said "I believe in a socialist society but not for those racists"

I don't believe we need to pussy foot around racists, especially in a social space.

I think left wingers are more dangerous and harmful to people.

“When asked by someone if she’s actually seen any of his debates she said she didn’t need to, the facts are there that he was basically a fascist who incites violence”

I wonder if that woman sees the irony in what she said

No. The left are calling out racism, they are not attacking the working classes.

There are plenty of middle class racists. Look at Farage, for example.

There are also plenty of working class people who utterly reject racism.

It is those on the right who are trying to characterise this as some sort of new class war, but we all know that Farage and his cronies don't give a shit about the poor.

That would be covered by point c

I’m not talking about the make up of communities but the way the left are insulting these people who seem to be predominantly from working class communities . I would suggest the majority of the left are now from middle class Islington enclaves with their constant virtual signaling and the finances to not be worried about this governments mishandling of the economy .