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Two questions about yesterday's march

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Sausagenbacon · 14/09/2025 08:26

I'm sure that someone can help me on this, but why does [whoever gives permission for marches in london] allow 2 conflicting marches on the same day? It seems that keeping the marches appart was the biggest problem.
From the news, it looks as though Elon Musk was broadcast from the screen on the BFI. Why did they give permission for it, as it was basically an incitement to overthrow the government)?

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1dayatatime · 25/05/2026 09:11

Pepperlee · 20/05/2026 15:45

There's no difference. A flag shagger is a flag shagger.

Exactly- I mean they must all be uneducated, manual labour, racist and far right - well at least that's what my left wing progressive bubble tells me what to think.

Why can't working class people just be meek down trodden victims of the evil western capitalist system like they're supposed to be, looking to the likes of us liberal university educated and enlightened types to save them.

MynameisnotJohn · 23/05/2026 10:31

@ThisFastScroller why do you find the national flag revolting but the Palestinian flag acceptable? I’m not much of a nationalist and don’t wave flags but it’s weird to hate people in their own country waving their own flag. You know that many of the marchers are protesting about just that - being told to be ashamed of their country by the intolerant omnicause weekly marchers who want to disrupt the country.

celticnations · 22/05/2026 19:09

"Unite" the Kingdom 🤣.

Good luck wi' that!

Pepperlee · 20/05/2026 15:55

ThisFastScroller · 20/05/2026 15:46

Revulsion and curiosity...

Aye right love.

ThisFastScroller · 20/05/2026 15:46

Pepperlee · 20/05/2026 15:45

There's no difference. A flag shagger is a flag shagger.

Revulsion and curiosity...

Pepperlee · 20/05/2026 15:45

ThisFastScroller · 20/05/2026 15:33

It's ok to admit you don't understand the difference. Nobody will judge you for it.

Well, I mean, I will obviously, but then I live in ivory towers in London and look down on your class with a mixture of revulsion and curiosity.

There's no difference. A flag shagger is a flag shagger.

ThisFastScroller · 20/05/2026 15:33

Pepperlee · 20/05/2026 15:30

Only in your biased opinion.
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It's ok to admit you don't understand the difference. Nobody will judge you for it.

Well, I mean, I will obviously, but then I live in ivory towers in London and look down on your class with a mixture of revulsion and curiosity.

Pepperlee · 20/05/2026 15:30

ThisFastScroller · 20/05/2026 15:13

Of course they aren't; trying to appear stupider than you are is rarely a good gambit.

Whilst their manufacture might well be the same, there is of course a difference in how those flags are being used. It's quite a subtle difference, I'll grant you, but it is there...

Only in your biased opinion.
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ThisFastScroller · 20/05/2026 15:13

Pepperlee · 20/05/2026 15:09

Have to laugh the cheap flags jibe but always aimed at the Union or St George's flags. Nobody ever calls the Palestinian flags tacky. Maybe they're all made of silk and hand stitched by virgins.

Of course they aren't; trying to appear stupider than you are is rarely a good gambit.

Whilst their manufacture might well be the same, there is of course a difference in how those flags are being used. It's quite a subtle difference, I'll grant you, but it is there...

Pepperlee · 20/05/2026 15:09

ThisFastScroller · 20/05/2026 14:21

"I don’t think the Unite the Kingdom march was full of violent racists."

That's absolutely true; it wasn't full of violent racists.

In fact, only a proportion of the proportionately tiny gathering were actually violent; the rest were just your standard passive racists who parroted slogans they'd seen on social media, or read in the Daily Heil, whist they staggered along the streets of my multicultural city, drinking heavily and waving cheap Union flags they'd purchased online.

Have to laugh the cheap flags jibe but always aimed at the Union or St George's flags. Nobody ever calls the Palestinian flags tacky. Maybe they're all made of silk and hand stitched by virgins.

ThisFastScroller · 20/05/2026 14:21

MynameisnotJohn · 20/05/2026 05:56

I don’t think the Unite the Kingdom march was full of violent racists. Most people are middle ground and reasonable and unlikely to be so passionate about a cause that they will organise a march so it will always be the extremists who do the organising.
I think the tired and reasonable majority saw a chance to protest against the constant swell of Islamism and antisemitism that is building in this country and played out constantly in the Gaza marches.
There is far too much pressure on free speech. Whether it’s lefties cancelling things or Islamists losing their mind when anyone disrespects their religion.
Wish there was a march for people who don’t march. We could have banners saying ‘calm down and be reasonable’ and tell the police we’ll be no trouble.

"I don’t think the Unite the Kingdom march was full of violent racists."

That's absolutely true; it wasn't full of violent racists.

In fact, only a proportion of the proportionately tiny gathering were actually violent; the rest were just your standard passive racists who parroted slogans they'd seen on social media, or read in the Daily Heil, whist they staggered along the streets of my multicultural city, drinking heavily and waving cheap Union flags they'd purchased online.

Pepperlee · 20/05/2026 08:23

MynameisnotJohn · 20/05/2026 05:56

I don’t think the Unite the Kingdom march was full of violent racists. Most people are middle ground and reasonable and unlikely to be so passionate about a cause that they will organise a march so it will always be the extremists who do the organising.
I think the tired and reasonable majority saw a chance to protest against the constant swell of Islamism and antisemitism that is building in this country and played out constantly in the Gaza marches.
There is far too much pressure on free speech. Whether it’s lefties cancelling things or Islamists losing their mind when anyone disrespects their religion.
Wish there was a march for people who don’t march. We could have banners saying ‘calm down and be reasonable’ and tell the police we’ll be no trouble.

What a great idea .A march for the ordinary who just want a quiet life...no drama...no egos...no hatred for anyone with a different opinion.

MynameisnotJohn · 20/05/2026 05:56

I don’t think the Unite the Kingdom march was full of violent racists. Most people are middle ground and reasonable and unlikely to be so passionate about a cause that they will organise a march so it will always be the extremists who do the organising.
I think the tired and reasonable majority saw a chance to protest against the constant swell of Islamism and antisemitism that is building in this country and played out constantly in the Gaza marches.
There is far too much pressure on free speech. Whether it’s lefties cancelling things or Islamists losing their mind when anyone disrespects their religion.
Wish there was a march for people who don’t march. We could have banners saying ‘calm down and be reasonable’ and tell the police we’ll be no trouble.

WaryCrow · 20/05/2026 05:27

AuntieFah · 19/05/2026 17:05

You now, protesting against immigration when you are from a country whose history, culture, and people are the result of two thousand years of invasions and settlement from foreign nations and which spent the last five centuries busy colonising the rest of the world is beyond ironic.

There hasn’t been a constant flow of a million people coming here every year for those two thousand years. It happened on one or two big occasions, the collapse of the Roman Empire and the attempts by Charlemagne to rebuild it further north. Nor did most of our people invade full lands elsewhere. There were never many even of the British elite in India and China.

The country is already full. Overpopulated and with not enough room to feed and house those already here. The numbers of people you are overproducing in your own countries are not our doing.

AuntieFah · 19/05/2026 17:05

You now, protesting against immigration when you are from a country whose history, culture, and people are the result of two thousand years of invasions and settlement from foreign nations and which spent the last five centuries busy colonising the rest of the world is beyond ironic.

Pepperlee · 19/05/2026 09:24

tripleginandtonic · 14/09/2025 20:02

Do you care about violence against the police as well out of interest?

I do. I care about a police woman being
clouted with a sledgehammer by a lunatic lefty protesting about some Palestinian cause. Imagine the horror of a sledgehammer being swung at you. He should be up for attempted murder.

hedgeknight · 18/05/2026 17:50

1dayatatime · 17/05/2026 22:56

There were two marches because the Unite the Kingdom match had been "booked" with the police for the 17th May quite some time ago. Then at a later date the pro Palestinian match applied for the same day.

Rather than be portrayed as being biased "sorry Pro Palestinian March" can you do another day, the police agreed to run both on the same day but keep them apart.

Total cost of policing these marches was £4 to £5 million.

The Nakba Day march is an annual remembrance

Do you not wonder why TR decided to hold his rally at the same day? Any chance it's deliberate you think ?

TheFastLeader · 18/05/2026 17:07

Lifeinthepit · 15/09/2025 08:45

I dont need "evidence". I just need a brain. We have only one law in this country that applies to all of us and is (mostly) made by an elected Parliament. If you are calling for sharia law you are calling for a different legal system based on a religion dictat and which is not made by our elected government.

" I just need a brain."

Well, that's something we can certainly all agree on.

1dayatatime · 17/05/2026 22:56

Boomer55 · 17/05/2026 18:46

They should both have been banned, as there’s enough chaos with FA cup final day.

Two idiot groups trying to yell at each other, at vast cost and aggravation. 🙄

There were two marches because the Unite the Kingdom match had been "booked" with the police for the 17th May quite some time ago. Then at a later date the pro Palestinian match applied for the same day.

Rather than be portrayed as being biased "sorry Pro Palestinian March" can you do another day, the police agreed to run both on the same day but keep them apart.

Total cost of policing these marches was £4 to £5 million.

Riapia · 17/05/2026 20:03

There were two organised protest marches.
Surely to hold an organised protest it should be essential to have to be able to provide proof of having adequate insurance to compensate for any damage to persons and property.

Boomer55 · 17/05/2026 18:46

Sausagenbacon · 14/09/2025 08:26

I'm sure that someone can help me on this, but why does [whoever gives permission for marches in london] allow 2 conflicting marches on the same day? It seems that keeping the marches appart was the biggest problem.
From the news, it looks as though Elon Musk was broadcast from the screen on the BFI. Why did they give permission for it, as it was basically an incitement to overthrow the government)?

They should both have been banned, as there’s enough chaos with FA cup final day.

Two idiot groups trying to yell at each other, at vast cost and aggravation. 🙄

Andouillette · 17/05/2026 17:39

MrsSkylerWhite · 15/09/2025 13:29

My family is Scottish going back many generations but I was born in England and have an English accent. After decades travelling in Scotland, we have now retired to a Scottish city. We’ve been made to feel extremely welcome. No apparent anti-English sentiment?

Plenty where I am, unfortunately.

WaryCrow · 15/09/2025 18:32

It’s that old problem of how do we tolerate the intolerant, in a time when the centre ground appears to be vanishing and there is no good faith to an ideal beyond personal power.

Abracadabra12345 · 15/09/2025 18:13

Boomer55 · 15/09/2025 17:51

And me. It wasn’t even mildly terrifying in London. It was two groups shouting. That’s it. 🤷‍♀️

But that doesn’t make for an interesting story does it?

Boomer55 · 15/09/2025 17:51

WolfingtonBear · 14/09/2025 17:19

I live in London. I live close to part of the march route & saw 1000s of people on their way to attend it but didn’t actively join it myself. “Fucking terrifying display of barely contained violent racism” it was no such thing! Honestly the absolute lies people will tell to support their own political view point beggars belief.

And me. It wasn’t even mildly terrifying in London. It was two groups shouting. That’s it. 🤷‍♀️

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