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Right-wing American Pied Piper Charlie Kirk assassinated

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MsAmerica · 11/09/2025 02:25

I see a thread was started in Chat, but it's obviously more appropriate here. I've been in an American forum where someone wondered if it's of international interest.

Right now it's so early that there's no predicting what will develop, whether it will snowball into something catastrophic. Oddly, after a few hours, it's still not known for sure if they caught the shooter, which is strange, as they supposed knew where the shot came from. I'm already running across some odd conspiracy theories.

Conservative activist Charlie Kirk dies after being shot at Utah Valley University event
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/conservative-activist-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-valley-university-event-spokesperson-says

Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah event
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/09/10/charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-valley-university/86080079007/

Charlie Kirk, a prominent conservative activist and Trump ally, dies after shooting at Utah campus event
www.cnn.com/2025/09/10/politics/charlie-kirk-obituary

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Irisilume · 11/09/2025 11:39

The hyperbole is ridiculous....we don't know who shot him yet, so we can't just assume it was a left wing perpetrator. It was probably a crazy person, as it usually is in these incidents.

WellThisIsFranklyDreadful · 11/09/2025 11:38

SeaAndStars · 11/09/2025 11:31

Could someone post a link perhaps?
I've found this - www.adl.org/resources/report/murder-and-extremism-united-states-2022

"All the extremist-related murders in 2022 were committed by right-wing extremists of various kinds, who typically commit most such killings each year but only occasionally are responsible for all (the last time this occurred was 2012)."

There’s a great breakdown of this on the New York Times but it’s paywalled. I wasn’t lying in the slightest - all the evidence shows that right wing extremists are the overwhelming majority of violence in the US. I’ve listed the political leanings of the most recent political assassination attempts above. 6 out of 7 were right wing.

JudithDunbar · 11/09/2025 11:37

SeaAndStars · 11/09/2025 11:31

Do you know something about the shooter than none of us do?

No, sorry I should have been more clear, I was referring to the thousands of jeering, taunting and celebrating comments on social media.. including on his widows instagram account. Just breathtaking cruelty.

WellThisIsFranklyDreadful · 11/09/2025 11:36

TheNoonBell · 11/09/2025 11:19

That is an outright lie, you should be ashamed of yourself.

I’ll even help you get started:
the Hortmans - right wing
Trump - right wing
Nancy Pelosi - right wing
Josh Shapiro - right wing
Gretchen Whitmer - right wing
Steve Scalise - left wing
Gabby Giffords - independent, but a supporter of Bush at the time of the shooting.

Radiatorvalves · 11/09/2025 11:33

Newton161 · 11/09/2025 10:50

A bleak day for left wing politics. Their veil has slipped in no uncertain terms.

I think we can now all agree that the left are a huge risk to society. This cannot continue.

What an appalling thing to say. CK’s death at the hands of an unidentified shooter is dreadful. A tragedy for him and his family. Worse is that it will be exploited by others trying to build on the divisions in society and politics of which CK was undoubtedly a major part.

Just a few weeks ago a right wing MAGA person murdered a democratic senator, her husband and dog.

The major issue here is guns AND division. Of all the comments from leaders that have seen, it is those on the left that are condemning violence and calling for unity. It is Trump who is blaming left wing radicals in the basis of no evidence and demanding retribution. Tragically I can only see things getting worse.

SeaAndStars · 11/09/2025 11:31

JudithDunbar · 11/09/2025 11:27

I think this will have far-reaching consequences. The ugly, rotten, dark underbelly of extreme liberalism is being exposed. I do not refer to the every day people whose political ideals lean left, but the cult that has grown rampant in recent years, fed by the media and social media, and is truly a cancer on society.

Do you know something about the shooter than none of us do?

SeaAndStars · 11/09/2025 11:31

WellThisIsFranklyDreadful · 11/09/2025 11:21

You know you can just look things up, right?

Could someone post a link perhaps?
I've found this - www.adl.org/resources/report/murder-and-extremism-united-states-2022

"All the extremist-related murders in 2022 were committed by right-wing extremists of various kinds, who typically commit most such killings each year but only occasionally are responsible for all (the last time this occurred was 2012)."

JudithDunbar · 11/09/2025 11:27

I think this will have far-reaching consequences. The ugly, rotten, dark underbelly of extreme liberalism is being exposed. I do not refer to the every day people whose political ideals lean left, but the cult that has grown rampant in recent years, fed by the media and social media, and is truly a cancer on society.

VoulezVouz · 11/09/2025 11:27

TheNoonBell · 11/09/2025 11:19

That is an outright lie, you should be ashamed of yourself.

It isn’t a lie at all.

EmeraldRoulette · 11/09/2025 11:22

stackhead · 11/09/2025 11:18

If anything, surely this shooting (and the many shootings and physical attack attempts) should pave the way for compassion regardless of political leaning?

No-one deserves to be physically attacked for speaking freely - that's the hallmark of a civilised society surely?

""I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Unfortunately, we've moved from there to "hurty words must be punished".

WellThisIsFranklyDreadful · 11/09/2025 11:21

TheNoonBell · 11/09/2025 11:19

That is an outright lie, you should be ashamed of yourself.

You know you can just look things up, right?

VoulezVouz · 11/09/2025 11:21

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PermanentTemporary · 11/09/2025 11:20

Horrible event. Sad for him as a human being. Far too many politicians/public figures get shot in America - Gabby Gifford, the Hortmans, the president himself etc etc.

I hope your man in the White House will rethink issuing pardons to those convicted of political violence.

It’s a faint hope but one day I hope the Second Amendment is repealed.

TheNoonBell · 11/09/2025 11:19

WellThisIsFranklyDreadful · 11/09/2025 11:07

If you look at every political assassination or attempt in America, the vast, vast majority of them were perpetrated by people with right wing beliefs.

Even the person who supposedly shot at Trump was a registered republican.

That is an outright lie, you should be ashamed of yourself.

stackhead · 11/09/2025 11:18

If anything, surely this shooting (and the many shootings and physical attack attempts) should pave the way for compassion regardless of political leaning?

No-one deserves to be physically attacked for speaking freely - that's the hallmark of a civilised society surely?

""I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

PinkBobby · 11/09/2025 11:18

I disagreed with most, if not all, of what Charlie Kirk said but no person should be killed for having an opinion you disagree with. Especially in front of their family. It’s really terrible and my thoughts go out to the people who loved and knew him and to the poor people who witnessed such a horrendous act.

I feel strongly that anyone who describes themselves as anti gun violence cannot truly be so if they are pleased that this happened. Regardless of what CK said, you cannot be anti gun violence if you celebrate it when it’s someone you dislike. All gun violence is bad. No one deserves to be shot for debating/sharing opinions. Even if those opinions are shocking/upsetting to you.

I am interested in the lack of arrest/suspect - to me it sounds more like a professional job than some angry uni student making a point. It was a long range shot (in my eyes - maybe I don’t know enough about guns) and, I assume, accurate so it must be someone who had some experience. But let’s see.

Zov · 11/09/2025 11:13

I have honestly never heard of him, but what happened is grim, and a horrible thing to happen to anyone.

SeaAndStars · 11/09/2025 11:13

It's in extraordinarily bad taste for people to try to stir up hatred against any part of society as a result of this dreadful act.

I do hope that people will not try to use this to gain political capital especially as we know nothing about the person who killed Mr Kirk or why.

Regardless of his views or political stance millions of people around the world have completely sympathy for Charlie Kirk and his wife and young family.

Shedmistress · 11/09/2025 11:10

IfYouWantToSingOutSingOutIfYouWantToBeFreeBeFree · 11/09/2025 10:40

Then you aren't looking very hard.

You don't have to look hard, the people calling for more murders of people they dont like are everywhere.

EeveePeevee · 11/09/2025 11:07

The left are sick. The numerous videos of people celebrating a young Father of 2 being assassinated in front of his family prove that.

And for what reason? A difference of opinion? Hurty words?

So now being an outspoken conservative Christian in America is punishable by public execution??

WeirdyBeardyMarrowBabyLady · 11/09/2025 11:07

A bleak day for left wing politics. Their veil has slipped in no uncertain terms.
I think we can now all agree that the left are a huge risk to society. This cannot continue.

I’m just going to search your previous posting history to see your outrage at the shooting of Melissa and Mark Hortman. Am sure I’ll find it.

WellThisIsFranklyDreadful · 11/09/2025 11:07

Newton161 · 11/09/2025 10:50

A bleak day for left wing politics. Their veil has slipped in no uncertain terms.

I think we can now all agree that the left are a huge risk to society. This cannot continue.

If you look at every political assassination or attempt in America, the vast, vast majority of them were perpetrated by people with right wing beliefs.

Even the person who supposedly shot at Trump was a registered republican.

slightlyunimpressed · 11/09/2025 11:04

Newton161 · 11/09/2025 10:50

A bleak day for left wing politics. Their veil has slipped in no uncertain terms.

I think we can now all agree that the left are a huge risk to society. This cannot continue.

No one has been arrested. The police think it was a sniper acting alone so maybe cut the hyperbole?

Ddakji · 11/09/2025 11:03

Nicksschiffon · 11/09/2025 10:30

Pied Piper?

Yes, I wondered about that.

Can you explain, @MsAmerica?

SeaAndStars · 11/09/2025 11:00

Newton161 · 11/09/2025 10:50

A bleak day for left wing politics. Their veil has slipped in no uncertain terms.

I think we can now all agree that the left are a huge risk to society. This cannot continue.

Nobody has been arrested and nobody knows the politics or motive behind the shooting.