Labour - Buyer’s Remorse?

Leading on Ukraine
Keeping good relations with Trump
Forging close relations with European leaders
New deal with Europe - very real benefits
Negotiating reduced tariffs with Trump - extremely real benefits, stopped car industry going down the toilet
Closing trade deal with India - yes I know the Tories started this, BJ was good at starting things but poor at finishing anything.

@Katypp These are the issues that matter to me. If you want to list the issues that matter to you go right ahead.

Steady on, that’s a bit radical!

No, i am correct, its one thinktank that multiple sources have quoted.

The National Institute of Economic and Social Research (Niesr) said weaker-than-expected recent economic activity, U-turns on welfare cuts and forecast-beating borrowing mean Ms Reeves is on track to miss one of her fiscal rules by £41.2 billion in 2029-30

Find me any others?

"Is on track" you know that means IF nothing changes, she has 4 budgets to gradually reduce that.
You and others make out she has to find 41bn in October - if indeed its even correct?

Borrowing for July was 1.1bn, lowest for 3 years, i made no mention of borrowing over 12months - much of which was built in from the previous Government - NI cut, Public sector pay rises, compensation scandals - Blood and PO.

12 years between those two events, 2008 and 2020.

Might help if you read what i wrote?

Are you conveniently forgetting the financial crisis when the Torys came in? Or covid?

When you say hes done well on the international stage..what do you mean?

Er....borrowing in the financial year to July 2025 was £60.0 billion; this was £6.7 billion more than in the same four-month period of 2024 and the third-highest April to July borrowing since monthly records began, after those of 2020 and 2021.

"Rachel Reeves has been warned she will have to find more than £42 billion because of low growth, high borrowing, and U-turns on welfare cuts, ITV News Business Editor Joel Hills reports"

Multiple sources all clearly state the black hole is now bigger than when Labour came in

No, that is ONE think tanks view, according to Sky, others have put it at 15bn.

Plus even on the 41bn figure, its in 5/6 years time, IF we do nothing, the one Reeves had was in July 2024.

Govt net borrowing in July was 1.1bn, the lowest in 3 years.

And they then made that situation worse! Remind me how much is the black hole now?

A good link that proves the issues the Tories left us is & that Lab did not have full access.

Frankly, nobody comes out of this smelling of roses. Not the Conservatives who really did leave a lot for the new government to clear up, and were not honest about the challenges ahead. Not Labour, which knew the broad outline of these challenges, but refused to confront them in its manifesto and pre-election statements. And not our institutional framework, which meant that some of the immediate problems were allowed to fester and were obscured in the official data
Reeves ran through a host of issues, but there were two big ones. The first was the lack of cash available to meet public sector pay settlements of any more than about 2 per cent. The second was that nearly all the estimated £6.4 billion cost of supporting asylum seekers was unfunded, in the sense of not appearing in the Home Office’s departmental budget

Labour inherited an economic nightmare, i would add the 4% in NI cuts, thats 10bn pa to fund.

And that was a load of bullshit too! They had full access to "the books"..

https://ifs.org.uk/articles/ps22bn-black-hole-was-obvious-anyone-who-dared-look

I have seen a worse NHS under Labour, elderly and disabled targeted under a labour government and worse off. Right to buy scheme stopped- this helped many people who could never afford to buy. Worse pension scheme. I was always a labour supporter but they have lost my vote, I’m hoping in the next few years there is a loss of confidence vote and maybe another general election. I think it would be very different results this time.

Er any of the MN threads during the election! And straight afterwards

Absolute rubbish! They constantly said they didn’t know the full details of the finances of the country.

I feel they’re doing an extremely difficult job within an environment of a media who would rather highlight Farrage rather than reporting on anything good the govt are doing.

Also a lot of the population are impatient and expected problems in the NHS/Police/council services/immigration etc all to be solved very quickly. That was never going to happen.

However unless Labour change things significantly within the next few years Reform will sadly win the next election. That of course will be a disaster for our country.

Plenty do but as i said earlier, 1 year isn't long enough.

Changes i like, more medical staff at my local Neuro unit, my friend is getting the therapy she has waiting 18m for - direct result of an extra 28bn going to nhs.

Partner booked PSA test direct through new NHS app, instead of phones calls appointments etc

3 major resurfacing projects happening in my council area, this time last year we were all told "no funds"

Labour gave more money to councils for this.

Do you genuinely believe they're worse than the last lot? I don't know what paper you read but it's clearly one that's ignoring absolutely anything positive from this government.

OP, I don’t think that many people are going to admit to ‘buyers remorse’. Labour are completely fucking it up and no-one wants to admit that they voted for that. I can’t wait until they’re gone. And no, I didn’t vote for them. I’m a lifelong Tory voter who finally decided that they weren’t deserving of my vote so voted Liberal Democrat. Not sure who I’ll vote for in the next GE but it 💯 won’t be Labour.

Anyone but the Tories continues to hold true!

Dyed in the wool socialists? Do/did they vote Labour anyway?

Very similar to lots of the others. We had absolute chaos under the Tories, in comparison Keir Starmer is a safe pair of hands

However I don’t think they’re brave enough in tackling inequality and taxing wealth. Something needs to give on that front to give people who have nothing a break. If this doesn’t happen then fully expect to have Farage in next with the economic chaos he will bring, and the descent towards fascism. I am currently wondering how we as a family prepare for the economic policies he’d bring in (thinking Truss and her budget).

Also I do think Starmer is placating the anti immigration lobby too much. I’m disappointed by some of the language used on that topic.

But that wasn’t the question that was asked? The question was do you regret voting for them now, and the answer to that can be anything the answerer wishes.

Well said. It's so easy to slam everything without actually recognising some of the good that is going on.

Hmm...
Do you think you may perhaps be cherry picking and oversimplifying a bit there maybe? 😂