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Have we not learned that Appeasement doesn't work?

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StopRainingNow · 17/08/2025 08:12

Appeasement a policy of making concessions to an aggressive power in order to avoid conflict. Before WW2 Chamberlain tried Appeasement with Hitler, it is basically emboldened Hitler into thinking he could do what he wanted.

And yet here we are, nearly 90 years later with Trump trying to do the same thing with Putin. It makes me so mad. Putin is not going to stop with getting some additional territory, he will move onto the next country, maybe Finland want to give him a bit of their land, or maybe Poland.

I'm so bloody cross that Trump is pushing this.

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MsAmerica · 18/08/2025 03:46

Exactly! Thank you!

I can't figure it out - Is Trump so stupid he doesn't know about it, and are his aides too cowed to explain it? Putin's parallels to Hitler are just as pronounced as Trump's parallels to Hitler.

By the way, experts have predicted that if Putin gets Ukraine, his next move will into Moldova.

SaratogaFilly · 18/08/2025 00:08

I agree with you Op, bullies only respond to strength, appeasement will never work with Putin but nukes are the worry!

TheTeasmaid · 17/08/2025 23:04

StopRainingNow · 17/08/2025 08:12

Appeasement a policy of making concessions to an aggressive power in order to avoid conflict. Before WW2 Chamberlain tried Appeasement with Hitler, it is basically emboldened Hitler into thinking he could do what he wanted.

And yet here we are, nearly 90 years later with Trump trying to do the same thing with Putin. It makes me so mad. Putin is not going to stop with getting some additional territory, he will move onto the next country, maybe Finland want to give him a bit of their land, or maybe Poland.

I'm so bloody cross that Trump is pushing this.

After studying History at university, ive learned when dealing with complex political strategies like appeasement, it is rarely a straightforward "one size fits all" scenario. The context of the time, the specific personalities involved, the economic conditions, and the geopolitical landscape all play crucial roles.

Just because appeasement failed with Hitler doesn't automatically mean it's doomed to fail in every situation. There are so many variables to consider

Every conflict and negotiation has its unique set of circumstances. History is full of shades of grey, not just black and white outcomes.

TheFateNdoftheWedge · 17/08/2025 22:47

Hitler didn't possess nuclear weapons

That's the sole reason no country is trying to bolster Ukraine properly and march on moscow.

Nukes.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 17/08/2025 19:43

It's not a black and white issue. Over 13k civilians have been killed since 2022 and total casualties including wounded are estimated to be around 400k. Ukraine's infrastructure has been badly affected and the effort to rebuild is going to take years and cost a fortune. It's also costing other countries billions in military support. We've spent billions.

Ideally we'd all storm in, assist Ukraine and send Russia packing. Ukraine could concede some land to bring about an end. We could amp up sanctions...there's no easy answer.

UK support to Ukraine: factsheet

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/uk-support-to-ukraine-factsheet/uk-support-to-ukraine-factsheet#military

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StopRainingNow · 17/08/2025 08:58

Yes, I have so much respect for Zelensky, he is in an impossible situation, especially with Trump thinking that he is the peacemaker. We should be learning from history, not Trumps ego and narcissistic tendencies.

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bumblingbovine49 · 17/08/2025 08:23

I agree it won't work and is actually dangerous

I always think how well Zelensky responds. He is in such a difficult situation that I suppose he has no option but to behave as a grownup. His whole country is relying on him to negotiate some sort of liveable solution.
He had to swallow his pride a lot which he does with grace if necessary. The contrast with Putin and Trump is stark. He must be beyond despairing in private