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MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 18/08/2025 22:45

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 18/08/2025 16:34

He’s not employed by them, he was subcontracted to do work for them which is an entirely different thing altogether. Would you check the political posting of a plumber you employed to fix your washing machine?

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If my plumber was going to be employed to help present my views to the world, then yes.

If he was just fixing my washing machine, then no.

BIossomtoes · 18/08/2025 22:44

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 18/08/2025 16:34

He’s not employed by them, he was subcontracted to do work for them which is an entirely different thing altogether. Would you check the political posting of a plumber you employed to fix your washing machine?

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Obviously not because I’m not a political party. If you were a Tory, would you work for the Greens? No political party is going to employ someone to work on their social media who isn’t in sympathy with its views and aims - the potential for sabotage would be too great. Equally nobody with strong political opinions would work for a political party that didn’t share them.

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 18/08/2025 16:34

StandFirm · 17/08/2025 10:48

I never claimed he was something he's not - but he is affiliated with them in his capacity as an adviser and they should certainly vet who they employ, especially for something as sensitive as media campaigns.

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He’s not employed by them, he was subcontracted to do work for them which is an entirely different thing altogether. Would you check the political posting of a plumber you employed to fix your washing machine?

BurntBroccoli · 18/08/2025 10:27

TheOtherAgentJohnson · 17/08/2025 14:40

He’s just one of those dime-a-dozen young right wing edge lords. Thick as mince.

Yes the Faragette Youth.

BIossomtoes · 17/08/2025 22:18

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 17/08/2025 20:53

@StandFirm , he was an advisor in his capacity in regard to his media work only, not at all in terms of politics. Your post is disingenuous at best.

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Nobody would work for a political organisation in any capacity unless they shared its aims. And his blog makes it clear that his views and opinions fit right in with Reform’s rhetoric.

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 17/08/2025 20:53

StandFirm · 17/08/2025 10:48

I never claimed he was something he's not - but he is affiliated with them in his capacity as an adviser and they should certainly vet who they employ, especially for something as sensitive as media campaigns.

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@StandFirm , he was an advisor in his capacity in regard to his media work only, not at all in terms of politics. Your post is disingenuous at best.

SerendipityJane · 17/08/2025 14:48

I wonder what his take on the Napoleonic Wars is ? Maybe when he learns to read he can tell us ?

TheOtherAgentJohnson · 17/08/2025 14:40

He’s just one of those dime-a-dozen young right wing edge lords. Thick as mince.

DeLaRuiz · 17/08/2025 14:34

What does he actually think he’s saying? We fought for the freedom to be crap? Is that it?

SerendipityJane · 17/08/2025 14:31

He's not smart enough to advance counterfactuals.

However it's worth highlighting that he's picked up on a distinct argument before 1939 that the UK should leave Hitler alone ("Hurrah for the blackshirts") and let Germany and Russia slug it out while we picked up the nice bits that got thrown away. So he's not working from scratch here. Even in his first war cabinet Churchill had to deal with a distinct appeasement faction.

But as it was Japanese aggression that bought the US into the war (nothing to do with the European war Britain would be sitting out) then 1942 would have seen a US at war with the Axis powers, and their "ally" Britain, having done fuck all to help them now being dragged into the war kicking and screaming. And if the US hated the British Empire beforehand (and they did) then they would have made even more sure that it ceased to exist when they won the war that it turned out they did.

He can't help his age (who among us can ?). But it's unfortunate that he has this massive revelation just after there are no more people left who fought in the war he seems embarrassed about.

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StandFirm · 17/08/2025 10:48

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 17/08/2025 10:39

@StandFirm , that’s a nice bit of click bait propaganda.
This young man was employed in a sub contracted capacity to run media campaigns. He is not a representative of Reform any more than you are.

I never claimed he was something he's not - but he is affiliated with them in his capacity as an adviser and they should certainly vet who they employ, especially for something as sensitive as media campaigns.

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MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 17/08/2025 10:47

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 17/08/2025 10:39

@StandFirm , that’s a nice bit of click bait propaganda.
This young man was employed in a sub contracted capacity to run media campaigns. He is not a representative of Reform any more than you are.

You're right, he isn't a representative of Reform. Farage is far too canny to put this individual into a public facing role. But he is very closely associated with Reform in general, and Farage in particular, behind the scenes. That is no accident.

You can choose to turn a blind eye if you want to. It doesn't change what Reform is or what Farage stands for.

We can learn a lot about people from looking at their close associates.

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 17/08/2025 10:39

@StandFirm , that’s a nice bit of click bait propaganda.
This young man was employed in a sub contracted capacity to run media campaigns. He is not a representative of Reform any more than you are.

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StandFirm · 17/08/2025 10:19

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 17/08/2025 10:06

Honestly, OP, I think yabu to expect him to be historically literate. You need to understand that history is irrelevant to Reform because they don't deal in facts.

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Of course, of course... I know...

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MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 17/08/2025 10:06

StandFirm · 17/08/2025 09:47

Of course, he is completely historically illiterate. I don't even know where to start!

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Honestly, OP, I think yabu to expect him to be historically literate. You need to understand that history is irrelevant to Reform because they don't deal in facts.

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StandFirm · 17/08/2025 09:47

BIossomtoes · 17/08/2025 09:42

This really amused me. If Malta hadn’t been defended, it would have been reduced to dust.

if Britain had not fought in WW1 and WW2, it would not have had to rely on America for economic support, and it would have had the independence to act accordingly. Britain could have developed India, Cyprus, Fiji, Malta, Saint Lucia, Seychelles, the Bahamas, Australia, Canada, South Africa, Ireland and New Zealand.

Of course, he is completely historically illiterate. I don't even know where to start!

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BIossomtoes · 17/08/2025 09:43

twistyizzy · 17/08/2025 09:42

Do you support 16 year olds having the right to vote?

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Isn’t that “whataboutery”?

BIossomtoes · 17/08/2025 09:42

This really amused me. If Malta hadn’t been defended, it would have been reduced to dust.

if Britain had not fought in WW1 and WW2, it would not have had to rely on America for economic support, and it would have had the independence to act accordingly. Britain could have developed India, Cyprus, Fiji, Malta, Saint Lucia, Seychelles, the Bahamas, Australia, Canada, South Africa, Ireland and New Zealand.

twistyizzy · 17/08/2025 09:42

ProfessorRizz · 17/08/2025 08:49

I think a 23 year old ‘advisor’ tells us what the problem is, here. The pre-frontal cortex isn’t developed until mid-20s, not to mention the clear dearth of experience. The fact that Reform are fielding children as candidates speaks to the lack of real support and planning around this operation.

Do you support 16 year olds having the right to vote?

newrubylane · 17/08/2025 09:38

Setting aside the word political take, he's talking as if we could have ignored the fighting in Europe and it would all have been fine. No, we would have been invaded. Does he think fighting back would have been in the national interest in that case, or does he think becoming a Nazi state ourselves would have been a desirable outcome (actually wouldn't surprise me). Silly little boy.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 17/08/2025 09:23

EmpressoftheMundane · 17/08/2025 09:04

Agree.

This makes me think a voting age of 16 is not a reasonable idea.

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This young man has been given the opportunity to influence our politics by someone much older than him. Farage knows exactly what he is doing.

This is not about 16 year olds having the right to vote. There are plenty of Reform voters who are certainly old enough to know better.

BIossomtoes · 17/08/2025 09:12

EmpressoftheMundane · 17/08/2025 09:04

Agree.

This makes me think a voting age of 16 is not a reasonable idea.

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What difference would it make? This idiot has been able to vote for five years.

EmpressoftheMundane · 17/08/2025 09:04

ProfessorRizz · 17/08/2025 08:49

I think a 23 year old ‘advisor’ tells us what the problem is, here. The pre-frontal cortex isn’t developed until mid-20s, not to mention the clear dearth of experience. The fact that Reform are fielding children as candidates speaks to the lack of real support and planning around this operation.

Agree.

This makes me think a voting age of 16 is not a reasonable idea.