Ricky Jones Cleared

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but I do wonder if the charge was a mistake. He might have been found guilty of a lesser charge.

Yes I read that. It has been said he was referring to NF who had put up posters with hidden razor blades on trains. But this speech was at a counter protest rally at a time of high tension and regardless of his intended targets he was inciting violence.

Labour have walked into this one. Two people with similar actions, two starkly different outcomes.

The clip should be released so that people can see it. Though I guess it wouldn't make much difference. Some on MN are dying to see a bit of trouble erupt over this, especially as it is a warm weekend. Same on X.

My country is a shithole. A tyrannical, failed, joke of a nation that pisses all over the freedom of its own, and would be considered a horrifying vision of Hell by any of the better generations that built it.

Says the person who posted an image taken from a far-right fascist....

The better generations that built it fought a war to stop fascists and nazi's. You won't get much sympathy from them for that view.

The jury saw a clip of what he said beforehand. He wasn't referring to the protesters.

There wasn’t a trial for Lucy Connolly so we can’t say what a jury would determine in court.

Daniel Jupp -

If you are the wife of a Conservative councillor in the UK and post online rhetorically that you don’t care if something bad happens to asylum hotels, you go to prison for 31 months for encouraging violence after a rushed trial where you have been processed as rapidly as possible.

If you are a serving Labour councillor who literally tells people in person to slit the throats of protestors you disagree with, you are not guilty and after your case has been delayed until everyone hopefully forgets about it, you are free to go.

Two tier policing, two tier sentencing, two tier sick, depraved injustice.

My country is a shithole. A tyrannical, failed, joke of a nation that pisses all over the freedom of its own, and would be considered a horrifying vision of Hell by any of the better generations that built it.

The contrast of the Lucy Connolly and Ricky Jones cases could not make it any clearer. Our judges and police enforce a leftist tyranny where those aligned with or championed by Labour can call for murder, while those who oppose leftwing policies online have no freedom of speech at all even if their language is clearly non literal.

Connolly said ‘I do not care if…’.

Jones said ‘slit their throats’.

But Connolly rots in prison and Jones walks free.

Jones was filmed telling people to murder other people. A flat out, unambiguous instruction to kill.

No sane person could look at the contrast of these statements and these judgements without realising there is no justice in the UK and without realising that the basic principle of equal justice before the law is completely dead here.

The jury doesn't agree.

But standing up in front of a crowd saying 'We need to cut all their throats and get rid of them all.' whilst making a throat slitting motion doesn't directly encourage behaviour which threatens life?

Connelly was charged under section 19(1) of the Public Order Act 1986 under which a person is threatening or abusive and intends to stir up racial hatred. It has a maximum sentence of 7 years.

The prosecution's case was that there was not only intention to incite serious violence but also to directly encourage activity which threatened or endangered life. This placed the offence on the A1 category of the relevant sentencing guidelines, which meant a starting point of three years in prison, which could go up to six years.

I understand that you think you know better than the courts but they don't agree.

It was a while back now but yes it was a fascinating and troubling watch. If I find a link I'll share it.

is this still being shown? Sounds very interesting

Ah unlike everything against Labour = Russian/Reform manipulation of the media + spreading of misinformation??

Agree; I've heard similar attitudes from others being called for jury duty. I remember watching that jury experiment on the TV; they took two different groups and observed how they responded to a renactment of a real case. Both came up with different results but what shocked me were the attitudes and biases emerging within the jury members. I'm wondering if something similar happened here.

“Everything I don’t like must be a left wing conspiracy”

RJ said so and we must believe the disingenuous, cowardly piece of sh*t.

But this case wasn't dismissed. The jury found him not guilty. It was a unanimous decision by the jury taken after less than an hour of deliberation. The judge would not accept a majority verdict after such a short length of time.

Just for the record, I am also surprised by the verdict but the point here is that none of us know the reasons why that decision was taken. Maybe we will learn more in time.

Edited to add this was in response to the post from @1dayatatime regarding cases being dismissed. The quote didn't attach for some reason.

The ‘for all I care’ is what makes it passive.

She’s not telling people to burn hotels, she saying she doesn’t care if they do.

It’s not the same thing.

It’s not a nice tweet, but it’s also not telling people to burn hotels as you stated.

If we’re going to discuss this it’s important that we do so with accuracy, and not put words into peoples mouths.

An all blind and deaf jury then. It stinks.

Agree with your comment about X. Which is why I said the optics are awful, this is going to cause even more anger towards Labour. They are perceived as Teflon with no accountability. This verdict just solidifies that opinion and increases Reform popularity.

Mass deportation now. Set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards for all I care. While you’re at it, take the treacherous government and politicians with them. I feel physically sick knowing what these families will now have to endure. If that makes me racist, so be it.

It was shared over 300k, she pleaded guilty to incitement to stir up racial hatred before a racist riot where people attempted exactly that. Hardly passive.

Ricky Jones is a nasty piece of work. The jury made a decision that is hard to understand. But there is a lot of hate being whipped up online against the jury. Really horrible things are being said on X.

That is why I said what I said.

What do you think her tweet said?

It was passive, his was active