Ricky Jones Cleared

Nope, thats just your opinion.

The reality is totally different.

Jacob Rees Mogg is just a person with an opinion.

Why do you think that 'even a Tory' sharing your view will make the slightest difference to mine. Funny that you're assuming it's political.

She pleaded guilty, yes. After being held in custody without bail for 3 months.

Whereas Jones was released on bail immediately.

That's where the 2 tier justice started.

She pleaded guilty, yes. After being held in custody without bail for 3 months.

Whereas Jones was released on bail immediately.

That's where the 2 tier justice started.

You keep editing your posts after I've responded.

Connelly didn't say that she "didn't care about violence." She pleaded guilty to intent to stir up racial hatred and endangering life. Therefore she meant what she said.

She posted her viral tweet before the riots kicked off and no one has suggested that she caused the riots and she wasn't found guilty of that. The riots were partly caused by disinformation online saying that a Muslim asylum seeker who had recently arrived by boat, had committed the murders.

We do not have a system based on what people "think" is the correct verdict,

Hahaha haha. Yes we do. Clearly.

I'm not furious, in fact I'm quite pleased. The fact that the jury were able to stick with what they thought was the correct verdict, and not be swayed into the easy verdict demanded by the mob, encourages me to think that justice is alive and well.

Especially since the mob (i.e. most posters on here and on social media) appear spectacularly badly informed:

Don't understand the difference between pleading guilty and pleading not guilty

Think calling for the burning alive of a specific group of innocent people is the same as saying that violent criminals should be killed. (Presumably they think that saying "peadophiles should hang" should be illegal too?)

Have no clue how jury trials work.

Don't know the first thing about how the justice system in general works (and appear to think "Labour" or the PM himself are in charge of decisions to prosecute, the judiciary, the advice given by solicitors to their clients, bail decisions, and are even directing events in the jury room!)

Unfortunately I think the real societal divide (and the reason for the risk of serious unrest) is between those few sensible people who live in the real world and have a proper understanding of how things work, and those many badly-informed, gullible people who are vulnerable to online conspiracies and see what they want to see.

I don’t think she had a solicitor at all, they told her that if she were to plead guilty it would be a light sentence. See also: the guy arrested for cutting his hedge with a small sickle, who was told to accept a police caution after several hours waiting for a solicitor who was unavailable, so he could go home.

Moral : just say no comment like all the dealers and robbers, wait it out and hope the police get tired before you.

Neither is right, BUT we have a justice system to find people guilty or not guilty.

We do not have a system based on what people "think" is the correct verdict, based on their own political leanings.

Men’s mental health and legal guidance paid for by the Labour Party. 🤮🤮

Let me guess, he's got men's mental health.

Also Dominic Grieve on X

Rees Mogg on x

I think it's 2 tier justice.

I also think that inciting a mob to slit a group's throat is worse than saying you don't care about violence. Her tweet isn't what caused the riots. That was caused by anger at the current political mismanagement of asylum, anger at the deaths of 3 little girls, and fear that mismanaged asylum is increasing violence in the UK. Not one tweet that someone doesn't care about violence which was already happening.

That's what people are saying on Twitter so it must be true.

Also Dominic Grieve on X

So you think she deserves the jail time.

Do you think it's legal for someone to tell a crowd 'We need to cut all their throats and get rid of them all.' whilst making a throat slitting motion about a group of people they don’t like?

Which do you think is worse: someone saying they don't care if people set fire to the building housing a group they don't like, or someone telling a group to cut the throats of the group they don't like? If you ignore who the disliked group is, for a minute.

I think it's 2 tier justice.

I also think that inciting a mob to slit a group's throat is worse than saying you don't care about violence. Her tweet isn't what caused the riots. That was caused by anger at the current political mismanagement of asylum, anger at the deaths of 3 little girls, and fear that mismanaged asylum is increasing violence in the UK. Not one tweet that someone doesn't care about violence which was already happening.

He made a throat cutting action caught on camera etc and got let off?? 100% 2 tier justice, if he had been on the "wrong side" he would have been found guilty. Lucky for him he was on the "right" side!

So you think she deserves the jail time.

Do you think it's legal for someone to tell a crowd 'We need to cut all their throats and get rid of them all.' whilst making a throat slitting motion about a group of people they don’t like?

Which do you think is worse: someone saying they don't care if people set fire to the building housing a group they don't like, or someone telling a group to cut the throats of the group they don't like? If you ignore who the disliked group is, for a minute.