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Ricky Jones Cleared

438 replies

DancingFerret · 15/08/2025 12:33

Unbelievable (but not unexpected).

www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-15003437/Labour-councillor-cleared-cutting-throats-comment-rally.html

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TheignT · 16/08/2025 13:22

mrshoho · 15/08/2025 13:48

What we have learnt today is never plead guilty and instead take your chance in court. All those who were sentenced for writing online messages, including Lucy Connolly, should have pleaded not guilty. They were probably told plead guilty, the evidence is clear, you'll get a lighter sentence. But they were then crucified. The evidence for Ricky Jones couldn't have been any clearer yet he is now free. This is a terrible day for UK justice. Most people in prison have will have suffered a bad childhood and have special needs.

I wonder what sentence if she'd taken the gamble and found guilty.

EasternStandard · 16/08/2025 13:21

strawberrybubblegum · 16/08/2025 13:17

The dangers of middle-aged, middle class women!

Remanded no less. Why?

Alexandra2001 · 16/08/2025 13:20

strawberrybubblegum · 16/08/2025 13:17

The dangers of middle-aged, middle class women!

a man who re tweeted her post, was jailed for 38months..... hardly noise.

EasternStandard · 16/08/2025 13:19

strawberrybubblegum · 16/08/2025 13:17

The dangers of middle-aged, middle class women!

So many people post online, men post violent stuff, so much is noise.

Alexandra2001 · 16/08/2025 13:19

strawberrybubblegum · 16/08/2025 13:17

The dangers of middle-aged, middle class women!

Anyone can incite violence & have people who will be encouraged by it....

Or are you calling for the decriminalisation of hate speech/incitement?

I'll add, she has no class.

strawberrybubblegum · 16/08/2025 13:17

Alexandra2001 · 16/08/2025 13:16

She made her 100s of tweets over many months, she admitted the offence but saw nothing wrong in what she'd done..... was seen as an on going risk.

Jones was an isolated incident, made during a time when there was no widespread rioting.

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The dangers of middle-aged, middle class women!

Alexandra2001 · 16/08/2025 13:16

strawberrybubblegum · 16/08/2025 13:13

And Connolly being remanded in custody versus Jones being released on bail?

She made her 100s of tweets over many months, she admitted the offence but saw nothing wrong in what she'd done..... was seen as an on going risk.

Jones was an isolated incident, made during a time when there was no widespread rioting.

strawberrybubblegum · 16/08/2025 13:13

SerendipityJane · 16/08/2025 13:10

So the transcript of the appeal courts ruling that I posted ?

And Connolly being remanded in custody versus Jones being released on bail?

SerendipityJane · 16/08/2025 13:12

Alexandra2001 · 16/08/2025 12:38

Took the jury 30mins to find him Not Guilty..... the evidence clearly wasn't as clear cut as you think....

Or maybe it was, just not in the way people want to believe.

SerendipityJane · 16/08/2025 13:10

strawberrybubblegum · 16/08/2025 12:28

No. But it was completely different treatment to Ricky Jones.

And she has been denied an appeal.

So the transcript of the appeal courts ruling that I posted ?

MiloMinderbinder925 · 16/08/2025 13:09

strawberrybubblegum · 16/08/2025 13:02

Accusations of racism are politically loaded.

That is a fact.

It's a fact that Connelly made racist comments, it's a fact that she made those comments before racist riots and it's a fact that she pleaded guilty to inciting racial hatred and endangering life.

strawberrybubblegum · 16/08/2025 13:02

MiloMinderbinder925 · 16/08/2025 12:33

It was a different charge to Jones. There needs to be a good reason for an appeal which wasn't found. Try dealing with facts.

Accusations of racism are politically loaded.

That is a fact.

strawberrybubblegum · 16/08/2025 12:59

LimpysGotCancer · 16/08/2025 12:20

So you don't know, and haven't watched the video, then?
Or is it just that you don't want to answer the question? It's a simple question.

It's a politically loaded question, attempting to shame me for standing up for 'disgusting Nazi Fascists'.

Even disgusting Nazi Fascists are protected by the law.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 16/08/2025 12:58

Lucyintheskywithdiamonnds · 16/08/2025 12:51

😂 hilarious.

What did You see when you watched the video of Ricky Jones inciting people to slit the throat of other people?

It's hilarious that the Spectator is doggedly right wing and supports Connelly?

I saw Jones saying that the fascists who were putting razor blades under stickers, where women and children could be harmed, should have their throats slit. Unlike others, I didn't see a baying mob, ready to follow instructions, the woman near him was smiling and the crowd seemed very relaxed. He shouldn't have said it but was found not guilty of encouraging violence.

Lucyintheskywithdiamonnds · 16/08/2025 12:52

Alexandra2001 · 16/08/2025 12:38

Took the jury 30mins to find him Not Guilty..... the evidence clearly wasn't as clear cut as you think....

What did You see when you watched the video of Ricky Jones inciting people to slit the throat of other people?

Lucyintheskywithdiamonnds · 16/08/2025 12:51

MiloMinderbinder925 · 16/08/2025 12:34

Course it does. Everyone knows how right wing the Spectator is and how they support Connelly.

😂 hilarious.

What did You see when you watched the video of Ricky Jones inciting people to slit the throat of other people?

EasternStandard · 16/08/2025 12:45

Southern25 · 16/08/2025 12:44

So was she sent to prison because she was a white woman married to a Tory councillor? Genuine question here..

Also there was no need for her to be remanded. Absolutely no way.

Agree why would she need to be remanded?

Southern25 · 16/08/2025 12:44

So was she sent to prison because she was a white woman married to a Tory councillor? Genuine question here..

Also there was no need for her to be remanded. Absolutely no way.

Alexandra2001 · 16/08/2025 12:38

Cirkitts · 16/08/2025 12:34

Its even worse it went to trial and despite video evidence this was the verdict.

Took the jury 30mins to find him Not Guilty..... the evidence clearly wasn't as clear cut as you think....

EasternStandard · 16/08/2025 12:38

Lucyintheskywithdiamonnds · 16/08/2025 12:23

‘One important difference is that, whereas Lucy Connolly pleaded guilty last summer, Ricky Jones fought his charges in court (defended by a silk from Garden Court chambers).

But this only points to a further aspect of two-tier justice; namely, who has the means to fight their case. The privately-paid solicitor will naturally make sure his privately-paying client is aware of all the defences available to him. By contrast, the harried duty solicitor is not exactly best-placed to give considered advice.

Either way, I suspect few who hear about these two cases will care very much about distinctions like guilty and not guilty pleas. Most will simply compare the two ‘offences’ with the respective punishments doled out, and judge for themselves.

Crucially, like most of those arrested at the time, Lucy Connolly was denied bail. Facing a potential delay of months inside while awaiting trial, she may have felt that she had no choice but to plead guilty to the charges laid before her. This element of potential coercion was perhaps the starkest example of ‘two-tier justice’. Since Jones was granted bail, he had more than a year to prepare his defence after multiple delays to his trial.

Two-tier justice exists across multiple realities and manifestations; from the granting of bail to financial disparity – not to mention the fact that activist lawyers are sometimes only too happy to waive fees where they agree with the accused. ‘

And look at the silk who defended him attached here, a Very Interesting and depressing read) . The chambers who defences. Hamas and are very left wing.

Again Labour stinks from top to bottom.

Did she initially get a solicitor to advise on a plea do you know?

Someone said in pp she was advised her sentence would be light, was that the police

Cirkitts · 16/08/2025 12:34

Its even worse it went to trial and despite video evidence this was the verdict.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 16/08/2025 12:34

Lucyintheskywithdiamonnds · 16/08/2025 12:31

Your response says a lot more about you than your sad little comment says about me.

Course it does. Everyone knows how right wing the Spectator is and how they support Connelly.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 16/08/2025 12:33

strawberrybubblegum · 16/08/2025 12:28

No. But it was completely different treatment to Ricky Jones.

And she has been denied an appeal.

It was a different charge to Jones. There needs to be a good reason for an appeal which wasn't found. Try dealing with facts.

Lucyintheskywithdiamonnds · 16/08/2025 12:31

MiloMinderbinder925 · 16/08/2025 12:27

The Spectator 🙄

Your response says a lot more about you than your sad little comment says about me.

Alexandra2001 · 16/08/2025 12:31

Lucyintheskywithdiamonnds · 16/08/2025 12:23

‘One important difference is that, whereas Lucy Connolly pleaded guilty last summer, Ricky Jones fought his charges in court (defended by a silk from Garden Court chambers).

But this only points to a further aspect of two-tier justice; namely, who has the means to fight their case. The privately-paid solicitor will naturally make sure his privately-paying client is aware of all the defences available to him. By contrast, the harried duty solicitor is not exactly best-placed to give considered advice.

Either way, I suspect few who hear about these two cases will care very much about distinctions like guilty and not guilty pleas. Most will simply compare the two ‘offences’ with the respective punishments doled out, and judge for themselves.

Crucially, like most of those arrested at the time, Lucy Connolly was denied bail. Facing a potential delay of months inside while awaiting trial, she may have felt that she had no choice but to plead guilty to the charges laid before her. This element of potential coercion was perhaps the starkest example of ‘two-tier justice’. Since Jones was granted bail, he had more than a year to prepare his defence after multiple delays to his trial.

Two-tier justice exists across multiple realities and manifestations; from the granting of bail to financial disparity – not to mention the fact that activist lawyers are sometimes only too happy to waive fees where they agree with the accused. ‘

And look at the silk who defended him attached here, a Very Interesting and depressing read) . The chambers who defences. Hamas and are very left wing.

Again Labour stinks from top to bottom.

She had a privately paid for legal team when she tried for an appeal, 3 judges decided she had no grounds for appeal and dismissed her application.

Once again, the 'right attack our institutions for their own political gain..... just as Bojo did a few years ago... "those leftie judges....."