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Immigration - wanting some stats

134 replies

ITSJUSTBRIDGET · 12/08/2025 20:08

I’m so so sick of the immigration media headlines

the attached shows the immigration backlog since 1990. I’m wanting to add in the number or home office immigration staff into the graph

how did we go from a low of around 3000 in 2005 to this years figure of 91,000

ive googled home office staff in 2010 which had a total of 28,423 staff

2010, the Home Office had a total of 2811 payroll staff. This figure represents the total number of employees within Additionally, the wider Home Office group included other agencies like the Criminal Records Bureau with 668 staff, the Identity & Passport Service with 3944 staff, and the UK Border Agency with 21752 staff.

At the end of March 2024, the Home Office employed over 51,000 people in a wide range of roles, across the UK and overseas

So to summarise 2010 there were around 28k staff with a backlog of around 4000 migrants/asylum seekers

today - we have a backlog of 91000 applications with a total number of home office staff at 51000

can anyone help me out with this logic?

TO BE VERY CLEAR, I AM NOT A EXTREME RIGHT WING VOTER, I’M FOCUSED ON WHY OUR GOVERNMENT HAS NOT/IS NOT SEEMINGLY ABLE TO DEAL WITH THE BACKLOG WHICH IS NOT FAIR ON ANYONE

Immigration - wanting some stats
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Lifeinthepit · 14/08/2025 17:07

EasternStandard · 14/08/2025 17:04

Idk but pp seem to get a bit antsy over assuming on votes and readership, tends to be from Labour.

Presumably these people who mention the DM must read it themselves to know what it says? So does that make them typical DM readers themselves? IS there therefore a typical DM reader?

It's all so very confusing. Which is not useful for an insult where clarity is vital.

EasternStandard · 14/08/2025 17:04

Lifeinthepit · 14/08/2025 16:59

I genuinely have never read the DM but have no issue with anyone who does. Or the Guardian. Obviously no sane person would read the Guardian but 4 or 5 people do and that's entirely their prerogative.

Idk but pp seem to get a bit antsy over assuming on votes and readership, tends to be from Labour.

Lifeinthepit · 14/08/2025 17:03

Someiremember · 14/08/2025 17:00

Well of course you don’t have any issue with anyone who reads the DM

You share political allegiance with most of the readership?

You seem to attach much importance to getting your news from the DM. What does it say.by the way on this (I don't take it myself you see). You seem remarkably informed on the DM and it's content so I assume you read it yourself avidly.

EasternStandard · 14/08/2025 17:03

Someiremember · 14/08/2025 16:55

Care to share your source of news and vote if GE tomorrow? Although I have a feeling I can guess!

I doubt it since I don’t know yet, so if you are following as your post suggests you’ve likely mixed up posters.

News a range, no TV all radio plus a bit online.

Lifeinthepit · 14/08/2025 17:00

Someiremember · 14/08/2025 16:59

So no then

Ive already replied on those two upthread. You just didn't understand the answer.

Someiremember · 14/08/2025 17:00

Lifeinthepit · 14/08/2025 16:59

I genuinely have never read the DM but have no issue with anyone who does. Or the Guardian. Obviously no sane person would read the Guardian but 4 or 5 people do and that's entirely their prerogative.

Well of course you don’t have any issue with anyone who reads the DM

You share political allegiance with most of the readership?

Someiremember · 14/08/2025 16:59

Someiremember · 14/08/2025 16:55

Care to share your source of news and vote if GE tomorrow? Although I have a feeling I can guess!

So no then

Lifeinthepit · 14/08/2025 16:59

EasternStandard · 14/08/2025 16:56

It is a bit. So many read it on here whilst saying they don’t. Plus the berating over voting is ott

I genuinely have never read the DM but have no issue with anyone who does. Or the Guardian. Obviously no sane person would read the Guardian but 4 or 5 people do and that's entirely their prerogative.

EasternStandard · 14/08/2025 16:56

Lifeinthepit · 14/08/2025 16:54

Well, no, neither actually. Not yet anyway. We shall see.

I do think trying to pigeon hole people using your own prejudices is counter productive. And using the DM as some sort of tool to define someone's character seems endearingly old fashioned 😂

It is a bit. So many read it on here whilst saying they don’t. Plus the berating over voting is ott

Lifeinthepit · 14/08/2025 16:55

PandoraSocks · 14/08/2025 16:52

The reason it made me laugh is nothing to do with politics.

The oxymoronic nature of "tribal loyalty is very fluid these days" tickled me somewhat.

Yes OK fair enough

You get my point though.

Someiremember · 14/08/2025 16:55

EasternStandard · 14/08/2025 16:53

And who will you vote for?

Care to share your source of news and vote if GE tomorrow? Although I have a feeling I can guess!

Lifeinthepit · 14/08/2025 16:54

Someiremember · 14/08/2025 16:49

Yup
I am right.

Reform and DM

Well, no, neither actually. Not yet anyway. We shall see.

I do think trying to pigeon hole people using your own prejudices is counter productive. And using the DM as some sort of tool to define someone's character seems endearingly old fashioned 😂

Someiremember · 14/08/2025 16:54

EasternStandard · 14/08/2025 16:53

And who will you vote for?

Tricky.

At the moment if GE tomorrow… Labour

EasternStandard · 14/08/2025 16:53

Someiremember · 14/08/2025 16:48

Upthread

And who will you vote for?

PandoraSocks · 14/08/2025 16:52

Lifeinthepit · 14/08/2025 16:49

Why? Many Labour voters won't vote Labour in 2029. Even though they have always been loyal to Labour before. You can see it in the 2019 election.

I too find it funny and a source of great joy.

The reason it made me laugh is nothing to do with politics.

The oxymoronic nature of "tribal loyalty is very fluid these days" tickled me somewhat.

Lifeinthepit · 14/08/2025 16:49

PandoraSocks · 14/08/2025 16:47

Tribal loyalty is very fluid these days

This made me laugh rather a lot.

Why? Many Labour voters won't vote Labour in 2029. Even though they have always been loyal to Labour before. You can see it in the 2019 election.

I too find it funny and a source of great joy.

Someiremember · 14/08/2025 16:49

Lifeinthepit · 14/08/2025 16:46

You can assume that. Although to "assume" makes an ass out of u and me....

You attach too much importance to what box people tick in the polling booth. Tribal loyalty is very fluid these days.

Yup
I am right.

Reform and DM

Someiremember · 14/08/2025 16:48

EasternStandard · 14/08/2025 16:48

And which papers / news do you rely on?

Upthread

EasternStandard · 14/08/2025 16:48

Someiremember · 14/08/2025 16:45

Daily Mail
Reform Voter

But not quite up to owning it 😆

And which papers / news do you rely on?

PandoraSocks · 14/08/2025 16:47

Tribal loyalty is very fluid these days

This made me laugh rather a lot.

Lifeinthepit · 14/08/2025 16:46

Someiremember · 14/08/2025 16:43

Yup, you are a Reform voter but a little sheepish about it 😆

You can assume that. Although to "assume" makes an ass out of u and me....

You attach too much importance to what box people tick in the polling booth. Tribal loyalty is very fluid these days.

EasternStandard · 14/08/2025 16:45

Someiremember · 14/08/2025 16:43

Yup, you are a Reform voter but a little sheepish about it 😆

Who do you vote for?

Someiremember · 14/08/2025 16:45

Lifeinthepit · 14/08/2025 16:44

I just don't think it's relevant. I can use my brain as much as any journalist.

Although I have a subscription to at least two of those you listed, I also have subscriptions to other publications.

Daily Mail
Reform Voter

But not quite up to owning it 😆

Lifeinthepit · 14/08/2025 16:44

Someiremember · 14/08/2025 16:42

I’m curious what you read generally for news

me? It’s a mix of Times, observer, New York Times, Spectator and the Economist

Over to you…. (Not that you’ll answer)

I just don't think it's relevant. I can use my brain as much as any journalist.

Although I have a subscription to at least two of those you listed, I also have subscriptions to other publications.

Someiremember · 14/08/2025 16:43

Lifeinthepit · 14/08/2025 16:20

So what you are saying is that you can be easily fooled if you are a labour voter and are happy to unquestioningly accept the party line that no waiving through is going on, but if you have the wit to question Labour propaganda you must.be a reform voter?

Yup, you are a Reform voter but a little sheepish about it 😆