Why do people not like Jeremy Corbyn?

I think he hated by the media but very popular with his constituents - I been told that his office does actually do a lot of letters for people.

But I am not saying muslims secretly control things. I am pointing out the fact that they have a sizeable voter base, particularly some parts of the UK. Its no secret either that most muslims have strong feelings about the Gaza situation. Voter base & intentions and politicians reacting to that is democracy, not secretly controlling.

You on the other hand were arguing that KS's policy was dictated by Jewish interests even though Jews don't have the numbers to be able to influence politicians behaviour to gain their votes, so what else are you saying their influence, you claim they had, is based on?

Because he was completely incompetent as leader of the Labour party which allowed Boris and friends to take power and stay in power despite Boris being a morally bankrupt self-serving serial liar, which then had the knock on effect of wreaking havoc on the country.

the Racism and ageism at the start of your post is offensive.

Why does any policy on Gaza now have to be based on preconceived notions and "sides". Youre either "pro Gaza" (whatever that means) or a "Zionist".

Things are mad these days.

Although it probably is within Corbyn's circle.

Thinking that Israel has the right to exist and defend itself isn't controversial is it?

Ok so perhaps Starmer's reluctance to call Israel out on their behaviour was due to paranoia about the anti semitism accusations about the Labour party?

Oh and he has previously stated his support for Zionism, maybe thats relevant I dont know.

But there’s a famous and longstanding conspiracy theory that Jews secretly control the world.

Also why would British Jews base their vote on policy towards Israel? That’s also a suggestion that should be avoided.

Both these feature on the IHRA definition of antisemitism.

https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism

Oh here we go again "anti semitic" how about I just call you Islamaphobic for insinuating Muslims secretly control everything behind the scenes? Or we could debate like adults instead of rushing to sling insults and ott accusations?

No, that couldn’t be said because Jews are a tiny percentage of the UK population and Muslims a sizeable population.

One would have to be very stupid and extremely ill informed to make the claim in your post.

In fact, it is so spectacularly ill informed that one can’t help suspecting that there is underlying anti-Semitic thinking that Jews secretly control things behind the scenes. Because quite clearly their ‘voting power’ can’t be doing that as they are tiny in number.

Hi don't thonk for one second Starmer has prioritised muslim feelings about the Gaza conflict, he has staunchly defended Israel's actions for the last two years - until now. So what changed? Public pressure and pressure from within his own party, the public horror and disgust just couldn't be ignored any longer. Still no sanctions though eh?

Muslims make up about 6.5% of the voting population though, outnumbering Jewish voters about 14 to 1.

Think they were lost a long time ago. Remember who the subject of this thread is.

Or it could be said the reason why Starmer has refused to recognise the scale of the horror in Gaza until now, and chose to actually assist Israel in their war crimes, was his fear of losing the Jewish voters.....

The PP knows that. Read her post.

It wasn’t a donkey jacket and it wasn’t Jeremy Corbyn. Apart from that, you’re spot on!

Its not most of the British public. PP is right that most people are not motivated enough by the ME for it to effect how they vote. It is, however, a big deciding issue for Muslim voters and KS is scared of losing their votes, as are his MPs who reliant on the Muslim vote to keep their seats. .

I don't think it's high on the priorities of most normal people. Sorry.

A man of integrity who doesn't just do what is needed to get votes (as you claim), does not lie by omission by not telling people what his stance really is (there was also immense pressure on him to tell the truth of his position which he failed to do).

A lot of posters have pointed out that Corbyn was often unclear and evasive about his real position and this led them not to trust him.

Hardly the man of integrity you are claiming.

He kept his stance on Brexit quiet but he also didn’t lie about his own opinion, when there was immense pressure to do so.
I’m not sure how you think the third paragraph is a contradiction.

He's not a diplomat. So he can't do any diplomacy. He has no power or influence to broker peace. That isn't why he is there.

He visits these people because he admires and agrees with them.

This ' he is a peace broker' myth has been invented by his fans who don't want to face up to what is right in front of them.

This is such a bad argument.

For it to make any sense at all Corbyn would have to be a man who had power or influence to negotiate peace.

He did not.

He was an inconsequential back bench MP to spent his whole life deliberately avoiding making the connections and building the alliances that he would need to be able to influence anyone towards peace. He was in no position to negotiate peace. That is not why he went.

You only need to look at how he ruled as party leader to see this was a man with no skills whatsoever in building alliances or bridges or negotiation. In fact, he very clearly had no interest in such enterprises at all. Which is probably why he clearly never bothered to invest time in building those conflict resolution skills.

He spent his time talking to terrorists across the world, attending ceremonies to celebrate them and their terrorism and refusing to condemn terrorism because he liked them and was sympathetic to them and their causes. That's the simple truth of it.

Considering we're aiding and abetting Israel it really is our business, world politics affects us all, Keir Starmer wouldn't be threatening to recognise Palestine if most of the British public weren't switched on about Gaza, I don't believe for a second he personally cares

Why does he not wait for similar confirmation on things supposedly done by e.g. Israel?