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Why do people not like Jeremy Corbyn?

263 replies

Grace040712 · 30/07/2025 02:55

I was at a family lunch the other day with my in-laws and they were all slating the man. However, when I asked why my mother in law could only come up with her lives in an ex council house and she doesn't like his suit.

These aren't attributes I particularly care about in politicians (or really in people in general). I much prefer to find out if they are kind, think of others, hard working, honest etc ...

So! To those who dislike and to those who do... What are our thoughts on Jeremy Corbyn?

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mouthpipette · 01/08/2025 13:55

And, what do you think of the more people who voted for Boris Johnson's Conservatives, who beat Corbyn's Labour? That must mean that the many and obvious flaws of Boris Johnson are all just smears and lies, right? @noblegiraffe

I'm sorry, I don't follow your argument..... You've lost me..... perhaps that was your intention ;-}

We're just going to have to disagree on Saint Jezza of Islington.

tramtracks · 01/08/2025 09:34

Radioundermypillow · 30/07/2025 08:20

Like Farage. I guess it balances out the extremists.

IMO Corbyn is far more extremist than Farage - if he was in power that is. Thankfully the saner part of the electorate agreed with me. Not that I am anyway near being a supporter of Farage but there is in no way a comparison.

Quirkswork · 01/08/2025 09:26

noblegiraffe · 01/08/2025 09:16

That's your response? To call that list of serious concerns a 'naughty boy' list? That doesn't suggest his supporters have actually critically engaged with the issue, does it?

And, what do you think of the more people who voted for Boris Johnson's Conservatives, who beat Corbyn's Labour? That must mean that the many and obvious flaws of Boris Johnson are all just smears and lies, right?

Ha. Good point. Mustn't be two tier about naughty boy lists.

noblegiraffe · 01/08/2025 09:16

mouthpipette · 01/08/2025 08:46

Well despite your "naughty boy" list , his constituents, who had years of experience of him, voted in such numbers that he trounced even his labour opponent at the last election. Perhaps they didn't fall for it, or is it that the residents of Islington North are all just wide-eyed, anti-semitic trots from the lunatic fringe ?
The same question can also be asked of the 10 million elsewhere in the country that were prepared to vote for him.
So whilst you may disapprove of him, many don't.

That's your response? To call that list of serious concerns a 'naughty boy' list? That doesn't suggest his supporters have actually critically engaged with the issue, does it?

And, what do you think of the more people who voted for Boris Johnson's Conservatives, who beat Corbyn's Labour? That must mean that the many and obvious flaws of Boris Johnson are all just smears and lies, right?

Quirkswork · 01/08/2025 09:09

mouthpipette · 01/08/2025 08:46

Well despite your "naughty boy" list , his constituents, who had years of experience of him, voted in such numbers that he trounced even his labour opponent at the last election. Perhaps they didn't fall for it, or is it that the residents of Islington North are all just wide-eyed, anti-semitic trots from the lunatic fringe ?
The same question can also be asked of the 10 million elsewhere in the country that were prepared to vote for him.
So whilst you may disapprove of him, many don't.

the residents of Islington North are all just wide-eyed, anti-semitic trots from the lunatic fringe ?

I thought that was well known?

mouthpipette · 01/08/2025 08:46

noblegiraffe · 31/07/2025 21:03

I posted mine already on this thread....

Anti-West stance
Corbyn hates the West. He will automatically side with any country that also hates the West and that means he would be disastrous for the defence of the country. As I have posted before, this led to him suggesting that Assad gassed his own people, that we should allow Russia to investigate whether they were behind the novichok poisoning in Salisbury, and he blamed NATO for Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Iran is anti-west, so of course Corbyn has made several appearances on Iranian government TV.

Hanging out with terrorists
His rabidly Anti-West stance means that Corbyn spends a lot of time in the company of undesirables. Famously spent a lot of time with the IRA (a file opened on him by MI5 as a potential threat to national security), inviting two people who had been in prison for IRA-related offences to the House of Commons just after the Brighton bombings. Who else did he invite to the House of Commons? His "friends" in Hamas and Hezbollah.
Here he is saying that the British government labelling Hamas as terrorists would be a big historical mistake because Hamas are just working for peace in the region https://x.com/timescorbyn/status/1724186336922386655?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g
Post October 7th, who does it appear was making a big mistake with that statement? Not Corbyn of course- he was asked by Piers Morgan to label Hamas as terrorists and he refused https://x.com/piersmorgan/status/1724169911415504901?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g

That's because the hard left when challenged dig in

Brexit
Anti-West Corbyn is obviously not a fan of the EU. Perhaps that was why he made such a balls-up of Brexit policy post referendum that contributed to the election defeat against Boris Johnson who at least had a clear view. https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-corbyns-changing-brexit-stance

Corbyn before Party
Post-Brexit referendum he lost a no-confidence vote of his own MPs by 172-40. Did he resign, having lost the confidence of his colleagues? Of course not. He then led Labour to an election defeat against Theresa May. Did he then resign? No, he then led Labour to a crushing election defeat against Boris Johnson. Could a different leader with a strong stance on Brexit have taken on Johnson? Possibly. They could hardly have done worse (Labour's worst electoral defeat since 1935) - Corbyn was named as a big problem for Labour by many voters. Did he then resign? No, he said he wanted to stay on during a period of reflection. What a tit.

Blindspot for antisemitism
Antisemtism was a huge problem in the Labour Party under Corbyn and was poorly dealt with. Corbyn denied this, and the 130 page report detailing it. Calling the report overblown was what (rightly) got him kicked out of Labour. The famous anti-racist campaigner didn't support Luciana Berger, one of his own MPs who was the victim of vicious antisemitic attacks. People rightly criticise Starmer for his treatment of Rosie Duffield, but the template for the handling of Duffield was Luciana Berger. This blindspot for antisemitism is a direct consequence of his anti-West stance (which is of course automatically anti-Israel) which leads him to be around so many actively open antisemites (e.g. Hamas) that he just doesn't recognise it as a problem.

Well despite your "naughty boy" list , his constituents, who had years of experience of him, voted in such numbers that he trounced even his labour opponent at the last election. Perhaps they didn't fall for it, or is it that the residents of Islington North are all just wide-eyed, anti-semitic trots from the lunatic fringe ?
The same question can also be asked of the 10 million elsewhere in the country that were prepared to vote for him.
So whilst you may disapprove of him, many don't.

Wizeman · 01/08/2025 01:54

Jamaicanmoon · 31/07/2025 10:07

But I am not saying muslims secretly control things. I am pointing out the fact that they have a sizeable voter base, particularly some parts of the UK. Its no secret either that most muslims have strong feelings about the Gaza situation. Voter base & intentions and politicians reacting to that is democracy, not secretly controlling.

You on the other hand were arguing that KS's policy was dictated by Jewish interests even though Jews don't have the numbers to be able to influence politicians behaviour to gain their votes, so what else are you saying their influence, you claim they had, is based on?

The Jews control the world and the Muslims are a large voter base for starmer, that's why he can't make his mind up 😂

Wizeman · 01/08/2025 01:37

xanthomelana · 30/07/2025 05:01

A lot of people (myself included) fell for the narrative that he was a terrorist loving anti semite and all around bad bloke. Do I believe that now? No, I don’t and after seeing the shit show of a government we have now I think it’s our own fault for falling for the media hype around Corbyn. That said I still don’t know if I’d vote for him because I suspect he’s got very different views on immigration than I have but I’ll reserve judgment and wait and see what policies he has this time around.

You know just because the government has been shit it doesn't mean that corbyn won't be either.

Grace040712 · 31/07/2025 21:58

GonnaeNoDaeThatJustGonnaeNo · 31/07/2025 18:57

Tony Blair is the best and most successful Labour leader and PM there’s been.

Oh dear.

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noblegiraffe · 31/07/2025 21:03

Thulpelly · 31/07/2025 14:49

What are the reasons?

I posted mine already on this thread....

Anti-West stance
Corbyn hates the West. He will automatically side with any country that also hates the West and that means he would be disastrous for the defence of the country. As I have posted before, this led to him suggesting that Assad gassed his own people, that we should allow Russia to investigate whether they were behind the novichok poisoning in Salisbury, and he blamed NATO for Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Iran is anti-west, so of course Corbyn has made several appearances on Iranian government TV.

Hanging out with terrorists
His rabidly Anti-West stance means that Corbyn spends a lot of time in the company of undesirables. Famously spent a lot of time with the IRA (a file opened on him by MI5 as a potential threat to national security), inviting two people who had been in prison for IRA-related offences to the House of Commons just after the Brighton bombings. Who else did he invite to the House of Commons? His "friends" in Hamas and Hezbollah.
Here he is saying that the British government labelling Hamas as terrorists would be a big historical mistake because Hamas are just working for peace in the region https://x.com/timescorbyn/status/1724186336922386655?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g
Post October 7th, who does it appear was making a big mistake with that statement? Not Corbyn of course- he was asked by Piers Morgan to label Hamas as terrorists and he refused https://x.com/piersmorgan/status/1724169911415504901?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g

That's because the hard left when challenged dig in

Brexit
Anti-West Corbyn is obviously not a fan of the EU. Perhaps that was why he made such a balls-up of Brexit policy post referendum that contributed to the election defeat against Boris Johnson who at least had a clear view. https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-corbyns-changing-brexit-stance

Corbyn before Party
Post-Brexit referendum he lost a no-confidence vote of his own MPs by 172-40. Did he resign, having lost the confidence of his colleagues? Of course not. He then led Labour to an election defeat against Theresa May. Did he then resign? No, he then led Labour to a crushing election defeat against Boris Johnson. Could a different leader with a strong stance on Brexit have taken on Johnson? Possibly. They could hardly have done worse (Labour's worst electoral defeat since 1935) - Corbyn was named as a big problem for Labour by many voters. Did he then resign? No, he said he wanted to stay on during a period of reflection. What a tit.

Blindspot for antisemitism
Antisemtism was a huge problem in the Labour Party under Corbyn and was poorly dealt with. Corbyn denied this, and the 130 page report detailing it. Calling the report overblown was what (rightly) got him kicked out of Labour. The famous anti-racist campaigner didn't support Luciana Berger, one of his own MPs who was the victim of vicious antisemitic attacks. People rightly criticise Starmer for his treatment of Rosie Duffield, but the template for the handling of Duffield was Luciana Berger. This blindspot for antisemitism is a direct consequence of his anti-West stance (which is of course automatically anti-Israel) which leads him to be around so many actively open antisemites (e.g. Hamas) that he just doesn't recognise it as a problem.

bluecurtains14 · 31/07/2025 20:37

😂😂

GonnaeNoDaeThatJustGonnaeNo · 31/07/2025 18:57

Grace040712 · 31/07/2025 18:51

Unfortunately I think Tony Blair destroyed the labour party in 1997. Jeremy Corbyn is very much like Harold Wilson in his attitude to a lot of topics from what I've read.

Tony Blair is the best and most successful Labour leader and PM there’s been.

Grace040712 · 31/07/2025 18:51

GonnaeNoDaeThatJustGonnaeNo · 31/07/2025 15:38

my mother in law could only come up with her lives in an ex council house and she doesn't like his suit.

She is saying this because she doesn't want to get into a political debate or argument with you.

I don't like Corbyn because of his politics, his antisemitism and because he nearly destroyed the Labour Party.

Unfortunately I think Tony Blair destroyed the labour party in 1997. Jeremy Corbyn is very much like Harold Wilson in his attitude to a lot of topics from what I've read.

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Quirkswork · 31/07/2025 18:01

Skissors · 31/07/2025 16:42

Exactly. As is Farage

That is true TBF. Although Nigel Farage is significantly more successful.

Imagine if Reform win, with Jezzas party as opposition....

DeftShaker · 31/07/2025 17:13

I was really enthused about him the first time around and, though I brushed it off as smears initially, I became unable to deny the antisemitism. Couldn't vote for him again.

Skissors · 31/07/2025 16:42

BreadInCaptivity · 31/07/2025 16:00

He’s an activist and not a strategist.

No issue with anyone being the former but it is not compatible with holding an office that requires multi-faceted strategic thinking that puts the welfare of the country above personal crusades.

Exactly. As is Farage

Quirkswork · 31/07/2025 16:23

Arafina · 31/07/2025 15:34

Your "normal" is obviously not the same as mine, sorry

That's fine. As long as if your priority is Gaza, it doesn't affect how this country is run politically. Because that would be wrong on the basis we are no longer a colonial power and have no effect on how other countries chose to act. We need to accept that I'm afraid. We are no longer running the world

Venalopolos · 31/07/2025 16:06

iseethembloom · 30/07/2025 05:28

He’s a middle class man from a middle class background with a fantasy, Disneyland view of the working class. He seems to think the working class are a loveable misunderstood group of people who need ‘saving’.

His policies are completely unrealistic and silly, and he wants to throw money at everyone who isn’t well off - money that isn’t there.

At the last election, he was proposing free breakfasts and school lunches for all primary children. No, Jeremy. This isn’t a Scandi country with a Scandinavian sized population and Scandinavian taxes. Why should a binman be paying for some Crouch End yummy mummy’s kids’ oat milk?

Another lunatic policy was free WiFi for everyone.

The structural deficit would get much worse if he were ever in charge. ‘Fiscal prudence’ means nothing to him.

The free internet for everyone is still a joke we band about in our house now.

But this post exactly nails why I am not a Corbynite. I think he is naive and idealistic, even more so than our current government (and their idealism coming crumbling down around them at the moment).

It’d be great if internet was free, and kids food was free, and water and public transport etc etc. But the wealthy we’d be relying on to pay for this won’t accept the tax levels it requires and so it’s just unachievable in any way that has yet been proposed.

BreadInCaptivity · 31/07/2025 16:00

He’s an activist and not a strategist.

No issue with anyone being the former but it is not compatible with holding an office that requires multi-faceted strategic thinking that puts the welfare of the country above personal crusades.

GonnaeNoDaeThatJustGonnaeNo · 31/07/2025 15:38

my mother in law could only come up with her lives in an ex council house and she doesn't like his suit.

She is saying this because she doesn't want to get into a political debate or argument with you.

I don't like Corbyn because of his politics, his antisemitism and because he nearly destroyed the Labour Party.

Arafina · 31/07/2025 15:34

Quirkswork · 30/07/2025 16:31

I don't think it's high on the priorities of most normal people. Sorry.

Your "normal" is obviously not the same as mine, sorry

Arafina · 31/07/2025 15:31

Jamaicanmoon · 30/07/2025 16:35

Its not most of the British public. PP is right that most people are not motivated enough by the ME for it to effect how they vote. It is, however, a big deciding issue for Muslim voters and KS is scared of losing their votes, as are his MPs who reliant on the Muslim vote to keep their seats. .

I think if that was the case those MP's with a large number of Muslim voters in their area would never have got in anyway considering how Labour has been so wishy washy about Gaza until very recently, and for the record you don't have to be Muslim to be horrified about children dying, I'm not and it horrifies me, it's also the reason that for the first time in my life I didn't vote Labour, I couldn't stomach Keir Starmers response to it

Thulpelly · 31/07/2025 14:49

noblegiraffe · 31/07/2025 10:14

He's hated by plenty of people that aren't the media and for reasons that aren't lies and smears and yet these always seem to be overlooked.

What are the reasons?

Thulpelly · 31/07/2025 14:47

Jamaicanmoon · 30/07/2025 16:28

A man of integrity who doesn't just do what is needed to get votes (as you claim), does not lie by omission by not telling people what his stance really is (there was also immense pressure on him to tell the truth of his position which he failed to do).

A lot of posters have pointed out that Corbyn was often unclear and evasive about his real position and this led them not to trust him.

Hardly the man of integrity you are claiming.

He wasn’t lying or omitting the truth to gain power though, he was already Labour leader during the Brexit vote.

noblegiraffe · 31/07/2025 10:14

He's hated by plenty of people that aren't the media and for reasons that aren't lies and smears and yet these always seem to be overlooked.

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