Why do people not like Jeremy Corbyn?

Ah, so you did not listen to the David Icke-sponsored radio show where the Chair of the Wavertree CLP who proposed the vote of no-confidence in Luciana Berger started spreading Rothschild conspiracy theories?

Or the other senior member of the Wavertree CLP who accused Berger of "supporting the "Zionist Israeli government" whose "Nazi masters taught them well"."?

Nothing to see there, I'm sure.

Luciana Berger was certainly subject to vile, abusive and threatening antisemitism, but not from the left.

However she spun it as if it were nearly all Labour generated. She was disingenuous. She has been rewarded with a place in the Lords, I think.
Ian Austin hasn't done too badly either.

That's true, many fell for it

Perhaps they, like me, and unlike you, saw it for themselves.

Luciana Berger certainly did.

It's pretty well documented that many Jews left Labour and stopped voting Labour due to Corbyn's leadership. @noblegiraffe

That's true, many fell for it and were duped into thinking that the UK was on the cusp of being led by a "Jew hating", "institutionally antisemitic" ( Berger's words), Labour party. However, many didn't.

Noblegiraffe, do you mix with Reform or Liberal Jews? If you don't, then try it , you might get another perspective.

It's pretty well documented that many Jews left Labour and stopped voting Labour due to Corbyn's leadership. They started to return when Starmer took the antisemitism issue seriously (and kicked out Corbyn from the party when he didn't).

e.g. https://www.jpr.org.uk/insights/2024-uk-general-election-voting-preferences-british-jews-and-other-minorities

I mean FFS is there absolutely no one else other than a 78 year old perpetual activist on the Left? It's almost cult like. Why is the Left so obsessed with this one failed politician?

Well I don't. Why would you vote for someone who thinks Jews can never be truly British? My mum had to.listen to that stuff in the 1950s. Shocking that it's still being said today.

You're not alone. Maybe it's time to stand up and be counted.

Thanks for pulling. It looked dubious due to lack of references to sources.

I had AI put it together but, though I checked it was pulling from JPR, I should have dug deeper - some of those earlier years are dubiously sourced to the point they might even be hallucinations. Ive reported it, thanks.

Interesting chart, Source please @DeftShaker

Plenty of left-wing Jews vote Corbyn. I know many!

A small positive side effect is that the racist contingent of the Labour Party will hopefully leave for Corbyn's new endeavor.

Yeah, I don't like that it splits the vote, but counting on the support of racists isn't acceptable.

I feel the same. Left wing Jews have nobody to vote for any more.

I think Finland might have something to say about his presence closer to them…

Norway is a proper country. They wouldn't let him in.

He'd certainly be more "mainstream left" on economic policy but, yes, his national defence and foreign policy positions would be even more extreme by Scandinavian standards.

That said, if he wants to fuck off to Norway, I'd support that.

No. He wouldn’t. Norway take their defence security very seriously.

Why? What makes you think so? Why is what happens in asset-rich Norway (oil, gas, minerals; total population 5,600,000) relevant to the UK?

Are you saying this because of the policies he proposed in the 2019 General Election which was Labour’s worst defeat in recent times, when he lost huge swathes of the red wall, including seats like Worksop?

Because if this is what you mean, why not define your terms a bit? Policies haven’t been the focus or subject of this thread. Corbyn’s support of pro-nationalist groups, and his ‘getting behind the underdog, as viewed from a UK-centric perspective’ have dominated the debate here.

Bit like Boris Johnson then. As for Brexit, he was a staunch remainer until he saw a vacany at number 10. He also agreed to help a businessman friend inflict grevous bodily harm on a journalist. If we're talking morally bankrupt (and there are plenty of other examples in his repetoire), look no further.

It's like you've addressed none of the points made in my rather long post of issues with Corbyn and decided to witter on about the press instead.

And your characterising these issues of being anti-west, fucking up over Brexit, refusing to resign when he should have, presiding over a party riddled with antisemitism and not supporting Jewish MPs who were the victims of racist attacks as being a 'very naughty man' is just bizarre.

Your comparison is nonsense. Johnson's main flaws were either disregarded or laughed off, whereas JC was ( according to nearly all the press) only one storey short of throwing kittens off the top of tower blocks, which of course he would have been doing, had he not been too busy looking at murals, talking to Terrorists and explaining irony. He's a very naughty man who wanted to make the UK a more equitable country and was too naive to understand just how much resistance he would face from those for whom the status quo delivered a very comfortable lifestyle.

You can't follow your own argument when it is applied to Boris Johnson?

There's probably a reason for that. It's because it's a stupid argument.

And it's only our right leaning system here in the UK that puts Corbyn in the "extremist" camp. Were he to be in Norway he'd probably be seen as "soft-left".