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Why do people not like Jeremy Corbyn?

263 replies

Grace040712 · 30/07/2025 02:55

I was at a family lunch the other day with my in-laws and they were all slating the man. However, when I asked why my mother in law could only come up with her lives in an ex council house and she doesn't like his suit.

These aren't attributes I particularly care about in politicians (or really in people in general). I much prefer to find out if they are kind, think of others, hard working, honest etc ...

So! To those who dislike and to those who do... What are our thoughts on Jeremy Corbyn?

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Nichebitch · 12/08/2025 09:20

He doesn’t have the depth to manage international relations that are complicated such as US, Russia, etc. He will always make it about an ideological fantasy (and I’m saying this as a left wing person), and get us in very dangerous situations

Trezo · 12/08/2025 09:18

Monstrous Anger of the Guns lays bare the dark and deceitful world of the global arms trade, which, often funded in our name, is a business that counts its profits in billions and its losses in human lives

Quirkswork · 12/08/2025 09:11

Trezo · 12/08/2025 09:07

‘Devastating testimony. Faultless research. It’s impossible to exaggerate the timeliness of this powerfully written book’ Peter Oborne, journalist and broadcaster
‘The importance of this book cannot be overstated’ Mary Nazzal, barrister and legal activist
We are seeing injustices caused by war and occupation unfold in real-time via social media, and we are speaking out in our millions against these horrors. Yet, from Gaza to Ukraine, the bombs continue to fall. We must understand why this is happening if we are to end it.
Monstrous Anger of the Guns lays bare the dark and deceitful world of the global arms trade, which, often funded in our name, is a business that counts its profits in billions and its losses in human lives. Leading activists and campaigners connect the dots, showing how notions of citizenship, democracy and trust in governments are misguided, and how we can fight back by building mass movements, using direct action and legal justice to end the flow of weapons and the environmental and human devastation they bring.

The activists should send a copy to Putin and Kim Jong. Sounds right up their street.

Trezo · 12/08/2025 09:08

Book

The monstrous anger of the guns.

Trezo · 12/08/2025 09:07

‘Devastating testimony. Faultless research. It’s impossible to exaggerate the timeliness of this powerfully written book’ Peter Oborne, journalist and broadcaster
‘The importance of this book cannot be overstated’ Mary Nazzal, barrister and legal activist
We are seeing injustices caused by war and occupation unfold in real-time via social media, and we are speaking out in our millions against these horrors. Yet, from Gaza to Ukraine, the bombs continue to fall. We must understand why this is happening if we are to end it.
Monstrous Anger of the Guns lays bare the dark and deceitful world of the global arms trade, which, often funded in our name, is a business that counts its profits in billions and its losses in human lives. Leading activists and campaigners connect the dots, showing how notions of citizenship, democracy and trust in governments are misguided, and how we can fight back by building mass movements, using direct action and legal justice to end the flow of weapons and the environmental and human devastation they bring.

Quirkswork · 12/08/2025 08:56

Trezo · 12/08/2025 08:47

He is the opposite of all you said.

Getting more weapons doesn't make us safe it means more wars you have to keep using the weapons. wars, more weapons. Arms manufacturers glad.

Non proliferation treaty makes more sense.
Welfare not warfare.

You have to care about the oppressed to try make a difference.

He is not weak he is strong to stand by his principals

Starmer went off course on brexit on purpose changed the brexit vote offered.

No. Getting more weapons means that hostile countries like Russia will think twice about attacking us or other NATO members. Ukraine gave up its nuclear arsenal....

Trezo · 12/08/2025 08:47

bromlyons · 12/08/2025 07:34

Corbyn is a big no from me. He lacks patriotism and sees the world through a lens of who is the most oppressed. While he may be ‘principled’ and a decent MP, his career is full of questionable ideas and associations. He was hopeless on Brexit and foolish on nuclear disarmament in a dangerous world. He is weak, naive and poses a serious threat to our countries security. I see him as much as a populist with simple answers to complex problems as Farage but from the other side.

He is the opposite of all you said.

Getting more weapons doesn't make us safe it means more wars you have to keep using the weapons. wars, more weapons. Arms manufacturers glad.

Non proliferation treaty makes more sense.
Welfare not warfare.

You have to care about the oppressed to try make a difference.

He is not weak he is strong to stand by his principals

Starmer went off course on brexit on purpose changed the brexit vote offered.

bromlyons · 12/08/2025 07:34

Corbyn is a big no from me. He lacks patriotism and sees the world through a lens of who is the most oppressed. While he may be ‘principled’ and a decent MP, his career is full of questionable ideas and associations. He was hopeless on Brexit and foolish on nuclear disarmament in a dangerous world. He is weak, naive and poses a serious threat to our countries security. I see him as much as a populist with simple answers to complex problems as Farage but from the other side.

Trezo · 12/08/2025 06:33

Trezo · 11/08/2025 23:00

Starmer kicked out of his party many Jews who stood up against Israel's racism against Palestinians, they were the wrong type of Jew apparently. Thousands joined Labour before Starmer now thousands have left.because of Starmer his polices or lack and his support for Isreal's Genocide. Never again means never again for all people.

I thought I hadn't posted it, I was able to correct a spelling error also.

noblegiraffe · 11/08/2025 23:12

Why have you copied and pasted your post of three days ago?

Trezo · 11/08/2025 23:00

Starmer kicked out of his party many Jews who stood up against Israel's racism against Palestinians, they were the wrong type of Jew apparently. Thousands joined Labour before Starmer now thousands have left.because of Starmer his polices or lack and his support for Isreal's Genocide. Never again means never again for all people.

Quirkswork · 10/08/2025 20:05

I'm always intrigued by his background. His brother Piers is clearly an oddbod too. How did his parents justify sending his kids to a private school and then an elitist grammar and living in a manor house while still being members of the Labour Party. I know there's always some attempt at justification wheeled out in all these contradictory cases of lefties being hypocrites but it never really washes.I suppose his parents set the example.that you can ride two bikes at the same time. That must go for a lot of the Labour Party.

OverlyFragrant · 10/08/2025 10:35

Judge a man by the company he keeps is the saying.

The man in question keeps very interesting company that appear on various terrorist watchlists.

I do believe he has some kind of saviour complex and thinks he's sticking it to the 'establishment' not realising that those he favours see him as a useful idiot.

noblegiraffe · 10/08/2025 10:01

He may well be a good constituency MP, but he was an utter catastrophe as Labour leader and that is how he has impacted most people.

ForWittyTealOP · 09/08/2025 21:42

bumblingbovine49 · 09/08/2025 13:31

I like him. He was the MP for the area I grew up in for many many years and my mother was involved in local politics so met him occasionally at events and he visited our home a few times .

My mother who was a conservative who loved Margaret Thatcher in the 80s had a lot of time for him and used to say he was an excellent MP.

He definitely got flack for his attitude to the IRA in the 80s and 90s but his stance is deeply anti violence which means he is willing to talk to terrorists if it thinks it might bring about peace. He cares very little if that makes him look bad or 'soft' or 'an apologist for terrorism '

I suppose you could call him naive some think his attitude is too soft and might lead to 'appeasement ' I don't think he'd have made a good prime minister as he is probably too inflexible and gets people's backs up.

I still quite like him though I absolutely don't agree with his gender views and he is like a lot of males of his age in politics probably quite misogynistic. He worked very hard as an MP and he was deeply involved at a community level and really did seem to care about helping his constituents

Calling him evil is ridiculous in my opinion. i think he is too ernest and not jaded, it makes people angry for some reason. Fuck knows why.

He is a good MP indeed, I know this personally. He's not infallible though and some of his views are questionable at best. He needs to listen to people other than those who tell him he's right all the time.

LidlAmaretto · 09/08/2025 14:49

definitely got flack for his attitude to the IRA in the 80s and 90s but his stance is deeply anti violence which means he is willing to talk to terrorists if it thinks it might bring about peace. He cares very little if that makes him look bad or 'soft' or 'an apologist for terrorism
I think the issue with many pacifists ( like Corbyn who is cushioned from the consequences of aggression by his class and status) is that they end up victim blaming. Because if you have an aggressor who can just roll into a country and take over, there is no war ( eg Crimea) but if the victim of the aggression fights back you have a war (Ukraine). They end up coming up with ridiculous arguments like ' let's ask Russia to test their own Novichok to see if they were responsible for killing someone' because the alternative is to admit that they are hopelessly naive if they think that if only X happened there would be no war.

tramtracks · 09/08/2025 14:23

applegingermint · 08/08/2025 11:13

Let’s get this right. You’re saying that the people with lived experience of anti-semitism (given they’re Jewish), who decided they didn’t fancy a leader who has always shown a sense of empathy if not outright support for various foreign organisations who publicly proclaim their dislike of the Jewish people, are just a bit dim and easily misled by Luciana Berger?

Jesus wept.

Jesus wept indeed. The level of debate here is abysmal.

bumblingbovine49 · 09/08/2025 13:31

I like him. He was the MP for the area I grew up in for many many years and my mother was involved in local politics so met him occasionally at events and he visited our home a few times .

My mother who was a conservative who loved Margaret Thatcher in the 80s had a lot of time for him and used to say he was an excellent MP.

He definitely got flack for his attitude to the IRA in the 80s and 90s but his stance is deeply anti violence which means he is willing to talk to terrorists if it thinks it might bring about peace. He cares very little if that makes him look bad or 'soft' or 'an apologist for terrorism '

I suppose you could call him naive some think his attitude is too soft and might lead to 'appeasement ' I don't think he'd have made a good prime minister as he is probably too inflexible and gets people's backs up.

I still quite like him though I absolutely don't agree with his gender views and he is like a lot of males of his age in politics probably quite misogynistic. He worked very hard as an MP and he was deeply involved at a community level and really did seem to care about helping his constituents

Calling him evil is ridiculous in my opinion. i think he is too ernest and not jaded, it makes people angry for some reason. Fuck knows why.

noblegiraffe · 09/08/2025 13:02

Corbyn has had his chats with his friends in Hamas and Hezbollah so is presumably now in serious talks with Israel?

Quirkswork · 09/08/2025 12:48

LidlAmaretto · 09/08/2025 10:17

Yes. Did he speak to the Loyalists? Because they were his 'other side' or did he just blow smoke up the arses of the IRA, promising them things he couldn't deliver, as the actual team who negotiated the GFA said he did?

Presumably the IRA who hated the British government couldn't believe their luck that some idiot actually invited them in just after they bombed the British government!.

LidlAmaretto · 09/08/2025 10:17

Quirkswork · 09/08/2025 08:33

What was his standing to "negotiate" on behalf of the (Conservative) government at the time he invited IRA members for tea to the House of Commons just after the IRA Brighton bombing?

Yes. Did he speak to the Loyalists? Because they were his 'other side' or did he just blow smoke up the arses of the IRA, promising them things he couldn't deliver, as the actual team who negotiated the GFA said he did?

Quirkswork · 09/08/2025 08:33

Trezo · 08/08/2025 11:01

Corbyn has spent his life campaigning against all types of racism. He won a peace award.
He is the most anti racist person a decent trustworthy politician you dcan find you don't see many of those these days with a few exceptions.

Corbyn spoke to the IRA the political wing you have to speak to negotiate, its the only way to get peace.

What was his standing to "negotiate" on behalf of the (Conservative) government at the time he invited IRA members for tea to the House of Commons just after the IRA Brighton bombing?

Trezo · 08/08/2025 16:12

noblegiraffe · 04/08/2025 10:09

It's pretty well documented that many Jews left Labour and stopped voting Labour due to Corbyn's leadership. They started to return when Starmer took the antisemitism issue seriously (and kicked out Corbyn from the party when he didn't).

e.g. https://www.jpr.org.uk/insights/2024-uk-general-election-voting-preferences-british-jews-and-other-minorities

Starmer kicked out of his party many Jews who stood up against Israel's tacism against Palestinians, they were the wrong type of Jew apparently. Thousands joined Labour before Starmer now thousands have left.because of Starmer his polices or lack and his support for Isreal's Genocide. Never again means never again for all people.

applegingermint · 08/08/2025 11:13

mouthpipette · 04/08/2025 17:37

It's pretty well documented that many Jews left Labour and stopped voting Labour due to Corbyn's leadership. @noblegiraffe

That's true, many fell for it and were duped into thinking that the UK was on the cusp of being led by a "Jew hating", "institutionally antisemitic" ( Berger's words), Labour party. However, many didn't.

Noblegiraffe, do you mix with Reform or Liberal Jews? If you don't, then try it , you might get another perspective.

Let’s get this right. You’re saying that the people with lived experience of anti-semitism (given they’re Jewish), who decided they didn’t fancy a leader who has always shown a sense of empathy if not outright support for various foreign organisations who publicly proclaim their dislike of the Jewish people, are just a bit dim and easily misled by Luciana Berger?

Jesus wept.

Trezo · 08/08/2025 11:01

SaintGermain · 30/07/2025 03:53

A friend posted this about him a couple of years ago -

‘Around the time Jeremy Corbyn was Labour leader I posted that voting Labour with such a leader in place was morally sickening.

For those who don’t know Corbyn spent his entire political career supporting terrorist groups. In the 1970s and 1980s at the height of the Troubles, that is whilst the IRA were blowing up little kids and scattering their limbs about because they happened to be British, Corbyn was going on IRA organised marches, sharing platforms with IRA terrorists and campaigning for IRA terrorists who were in prison. He combined this with supporting Hamas and Hezbollah at the height of their genocidal campaigns against Jews.

He also took money from Iran, and still does, with all that entails. Right now Iranian women are being killed by a theocratic police force there, which was actually more brutal through many of the years where Corbyn happily took an Iranian paycheck.

Anyway all this was in the public domain. It amazed me that millions of people were happy to ignore these facts. To ignore the murdered children and the Jew hatred and the treason of it all. It still does amaze me. So I posted that people voting Labour, given this leader, were supporting evil, doing evil, being evil. It couldn’t be seen any other way, if you yourself were a moral being. ‘

Corbyn has spent his life campaigning against all types of racism. He won a peace award.
He is the most anti racist person a decent trustworthy politician you dcan find you don't see many of those these days with a few exceptions.

Corbyn spoke to the IRA the political wing you have to speak to negotiate, its the only way to get peace.

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