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This migrant problem is going to let Reform in isn’t it?

916 replies

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 24/07/2025 12:33

Honestly it’s such a bloody nightmare. Reform are making a total hash of local government from what I’ve read, putting teenagers in charge of whole departments with no relevant experience. What are they going to do if they are elected to run a country!!!! I’m honestly terrified. Labour need to be seen to be actively doing something to quell the far-right momentum that’s gaining traction from ordinary folk. I’m amazed at the average, usually pretty sensible people around me who are now telling me they are going to vote Reform.

there was an interview I saw yesterday where the minister said that thousands of people were being deported regularly. The interviewer asked why there were no videos of this and she said there could be. Well let’s see it! It would absolutely help.

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twistyizzy · 24/07/2025 13:39

Crikeyalmighty · 24/07/2025 13:36

@twistyizzy get your facts right ! He was neither privately educated nor went to oxford for 1st degree, went for his post grad

He was 100% privately educated. He was educated at a private school. It turned from grammar to private while he was there and his fees were covered by LA ie taxpayer. So yeah, he went to a private school, irrespective of who paid his fees. Or do you think that pupils on bursaries who attend private schools aren't privately educated?

Having a post grad from Oxford literally means Oxford educated 🙄

User135644 · 24/07/2025 13:38

Overtheway · 24/07/2025 13:29

I'm pretty worried about this. I know a few people who openly support reform who would never have wanted to be associated with parties like BNP or UKIP for fear of outing themselves as racist.

It feels like the far right is gaining a scary amount of support atm.

Its not far right to expect our borders to be enforced.

marshmallowfinder · 24/07/2025 13:37

Many people are absolutely sick of the inaction and the relentless effect of boatload after boatload of young men being absorbed illegaly into this country, who may or may not have suspicious intentions, who we're having to pay for and house and support, when our housing, health services, schools, roads and general society is under severe strain. People are desperate and taking whatever course of action they can to try to stop this completely unsustainable influx.

Crikeyalmighty · 24/07/2025 13:36

@twistyizzy get your facts right ! He was neither privately educated nor went to oxford for 1st degree, went for his post grad

TopPocketFind · 24/07/2025 13:35

twistyizzy · 24/07/2025 13:31

Don't forget privately educated too before ending up at Oxford, but yeh not highly privileged at all

Don't forget his grammar school was a state school before it became private (without Starmer's input)

PandoraSocks · 24/07/2025 13:34

Welikebeingcosy · 24/07/2025 13:29

My neighbour is a newly elected Reform councillor. There's huge piles of dog poo all over their garden regularly and I've seen signs of animal cruelty and neglect. They also smoke a lot of weed.

People have no idea who they're voting for when they only follow a single party.

I am in Wales and we now have our first Senedd Reform member (defected from Tories). She uses racist slurs and is generally a nasty piece of work.

Remember all the Reform candidates who had to stand down during the GE because Reform HQ failed to vet them properly?

Nchangeo · 24/07/2025 13:34

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 24/07/2025 13:30

Does the evidence that the protests have been orchestrated by neo nazi groups not concern you?

I don’t believe they are orchestrated. These are organic protests from local community. You can go find loads of footage online of these protest. They are hours long and have lots of locals voicing their views.

TopPocketFind · 24/07/2025 13:34

PropertyD · 24/07/2025 13:29

Any Labour supporters want to comment on this? Smug Starmer with his toolmaker Dad? One rule for him and another for everyone else.

Which party was in government in 2013?

Bluebellwood129 · 24/07/2025 13:33

IdaGlossop · 24/07/2025 13:28

I have to disagree that Labour have no interest in sorting out migration, illegal
in particular. They know people will vote with their feet if they don't make inroads into a problem whose complexities we are only just beginning to understand. The first duty of a government is to keep its citizens safe. At the moment, many people don't feel safe, most with good reason. There is evidence that Labour are introducing as many different approaches as possible to staunch illegal migration. Europe-wide, though, it is the right who have made difference. But Labour still have four years to go.

A large proportion of the British public is sick to the back teeth of Labour already.

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 24/07/2025 13:33

I don't want to pay for more people who have and will never contribute.
I won't vote Reform though....

twistyizzy · 24/07/2025 13:31

PropertyD · 24/07/2025 13:29

Any Labour supporters want to comment on this? Smug Starmer with his toolmaker Dad? One rule for him and another for everyone else.

Don't forget privately educated too before ending up at Oxford, but yeh not highly privileged at all

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 24/07/2025 13:30

Nchangeo · 24/07/2025 13:23

Whats wrong with the protests?

Does the evidence that the protests have been orchestrated by neo nazi groups not concern you?

IdaGlossop · 24/07/2025 13:30

peanutbuttertoasty · 24/07/2025 13:27

What labour need to do is stop waging a war of hate against ordinary British people who work hard and have high aspirations for themselves, their kids and the future stability of this country. That might help.

What a ridiculous statement. While Labour's actions may be deeply unpopular, there is no waging a war on the citizens of the UK.

Bluebellwood129 · 24/07/2025 13:30

PropertyD · 24/07/2025 13:29

Any Labour supporters want to comment on this? Smug Starmer with his toolmaker Dad? One rule for him and another for everyone else.

The man with so much integrity.

PropertyD · 24/07/2025 13:29

twistyizzy · 24/07/2025 13:26

"Farage is Johnson mark 2, in being a privileged twit out to feather his own nest first and foremost"
So just like multi millionaire Starmer then? With his tax free pension....now remind me who brought in that law? Oh yeah Starmer brought in the law to ensure his own pension was tax free yet is now talking about taxing pensioners.........

Any Labour supporters want to comment on this? Smug Starmer with his toolmaker Dad? One rule for him and another for everyone else.

Welikebeingcosy · 24/07/2025 13:29

My neighbour is a newly elected Reform councillor. There's huge piles of dog poo all over their garden regularly and I've seen signs of animal cruelty and neglect. They also smoke a lot of weed.

People have no idea who they're voting for when they only follow a single party.

Overtheway · 24/07/2025 13:29

I'm pretty worried about this. I know a few people who openly support reform who would never have wanted to be associated with parties like BNP or UKIP for fear of outing themselves as racist.

It feels like the far right is gaining a scary amount of support atm.

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 24/07/2025 13:29

We also have a problem of not being able to openly talk about things like British culture, immigration - legal or illegal, religion, without being branded racists.
It was telling that there was a mum with a sign saying 'I'm not far right, I'm just worried about my kids'.

If the tables were turned and there was a hotel full of British men somewhere very culturally different, do you think the locals would be cool with them carrying on and trying to kiss the local school girls?

IdaGlossop · 24/07/2025 13:28

PropertyD · 24/07/2025 12:55

Labour have no real interest in sorting this out. Letting almost always young men from countries that treat women appallingly with no proper ID live in residential areas. What on earth could go wrong?

How many people are being processed every week and by how many Home Office people?

If Reform do a deal with the Tories they are very likely to win. Labour are a waste of space and have little sound bites which even when they are saying them dont have any chance of implementing them.

I have to disagree that Labour have no interest in sorting out migration, illegal
in particular. They know people will vote with their feet if they don't make inroads into a problem whose complexities we are only just beginning to understand. The first duty of a government is to keep its citizens safe. At the moment, many people don't feel safe, most with good reason. There is evidence that Labour are introducing as many different approaches as possible to staunch illegal migration. Europe-wide, though, it is the right who have made difference. But Labour still have four years to go.

User135644 · 24/07/2025 13:27

Blame Starmer he refuses to deal with the problem.

PropertyD · 24/07/2025 13:27

Pierce the boats - if young men are swimming out to the boat then why cant the French police do this. Or why cant the UK provide some people to man the beaches.

The digusting scenes I saw a few weeks ago with young men pushing young children out of the way to get onto a boat. Shame on them. They then just disappear into the black economy. We have a number of car washes and nail bars. None have closed down, there is no appetite to do it so its just left.

peanutbuttertoasty · 24/07/2025 13:27

What labour need to do is stop waging a war of hate against ordinary British people who work hard and have high aspirations for themselves, their kids and the future stability of this country. That might help.

MotherOfRatios · 24/07/2025 13:27

I work on criminal justice stuff and the drivers of crime are largely due to poverty and deprivation.

We have high housing costs, stagnate wages, high bills, high childcare costs and people just cannot cope anymore. We really need to fix the fundamentals in this country.

Migrants aren't the issue, we actually need more immigration. I remember during Brexit farage blamed Eastern Europeans for the reasons northern towns were suffering it wasn't the Eastern Europeans it was austerity but people lapped it up, he's doing the same with migrants. If they stopped all immigration including small boats we'd still have low wages, high housing costs etc

Nchangeo · 24/07/2025 13:26

PandoraSocks · 24/07/2025 13:24

Read the article.

That they are organised by far right hate groups?

Thats not what I saw on YouTube. They are well documented. Hours and hours of live feed. These are local people. Whatever their initial political inclination. One of their kids was raped.

notimagain · 24/07/2025 13:26

Automatically labelling and dismissing anyone and everyone who objects to the use of their local hotels by migrants as XRW or neo-facist is a sure fire way of getting a Reform Government next time around