This migrant problem is going to let Reform in isn’t it?

Labour pledged to stop using hotels anyway. It looks like they’ve messed up on the gang thing so yes they’ll probably see Reform gain from that.

Not all of us "idolise" them, we just hate Labour and Reform are the only viable alternative where we live.
Labour have lost the majority of the Red Wall to Reform.

Corbyn and his new party might well take some votes from Labour. Labour are worse than I feared. I am not a real fan of Farage although I do like how he talks. Whether he can deliver is another matter but I cannot believe that some people think Labour are the answer. Put Tories and Reform together and you just might have something. Surely better than this shower of sxxt

To be frank - Starmer is no leader but he doesnt seem that bad when he is doing things in other countries. Foreign Secretary or similar. Better than Lammy who seems a waste of space and if he wasnt there it wouldnt make a blind bit of difference.

Of course they will. All the voters will crawl out of the woodwork like they did for brexit.

I live somewhere awful and I have never seen so many people voting as they did for the referendum, I knew we were stuffed. They are the people who will be totally screwed when that lying grifter they bloody idolise gets elected.

Reform is what happens when the concerns of many ordinary and decent people are ignored, ridiculed and sneered at. The current net migration figure of approximately 800,000 is unsustainable, but the government is clearly doing nothing about it as the majority of those people are coming in legally.

Many people, myself included, have seen the place that they grew up in change beyond all recognition, and not for the better, making them feel like strangers in their own homeland. Areas in some towns are no longer recognisable as British cities, and a party like Reform is catering to the people unhappy with this. I am not saying that all problems are due to immigration, many migrants integrate wonderfully and contribute fully to society and the economy, whilst many indigenous do not.

I won’t be voting for Reform, but understand why so many will. I expect that if they get in at the next election many people will still be scratching their heads and wondering why people elected them. It will be the result of ignoring and shouting down the legitimate concerns of many of the electorate.

Quite

I apologise I have no idea why I am being double posted

For christs sake. This is like NAMALT. No one cares. Have it next to your house. They don’t want it next to theirs.

For christs sake. This is like NAMALT. No one cares. Have it next to your house. They don’t want it next to theirs.

You would use violence?

Because if one migrant commits a crime, the others are all somehow responsible by association?

Omg
Yes ,why is that happening,I try to scroll fast to avoid ,but ,maybe I'm not quick enough and I get more of the same
The recent protests where they said it was mainly locals protesting ,had people attacking the police van ..how does that help the situation

So, he tried to claim he was state educated. What child does get to choose?
He has frequently said how much he benefitted from his education yet omits the fact that he benefitted from a partially private education.

You told me to get my facts right, I have them completely right thanks! It's the content hypocrisy of Starmer + his supporters who pretend he didn't have a majorly privileged education 🙄

I honestly don’t know what planet you live on. I live next a male migrant hotel. I can assure you if one of the local kids was sexually assaulted all hell would broke loose. That is perfectly understandable.

putting teenagers in charge of whole departments with no relevant experience

A bit like giving 16 yr olds the vote

I work in criminal justice and that's bollocks.

The kids that are victims of it may be suffering that but the ones at the top are not.

It's absolute bollocks saying the drivers of crime are poverty or deprivation.

Money is the driver and many, many people who aren't living in poverty are involved in it.

Police, prison officers, Dr's, teachers, etc.

This bullshit idea that it's like Les Miserable and driven by poverty is bollocks.

No-one involved in the drug trade in the UK is doing it to lift themselves out of poverty, they're doing it because it is incredibly lucrative and they also claim benefits that allege they are below poverty line.

We have poets and bloggers on the job shortage list.

Why are you worried, the next election is four years away! A lot can happen between now and then, pointless worrying about it.

@twistyizzy that wasn’t his choice though - he didn’t choose to go to a private school - it became one of- I went to grammar - it became comprehensive in 1975 - I had no say-

The problem with this sort of thread title is that it makes it sound like a reform government is inevitable. Once that gets into the national psyche, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. So let's not do that!

Have Labour done a good job so far? Maybe in some areas, but it's not like we ever hear about them because good news doesn't interest many people. Have they made a hash of some bits? Yes, but governing a country is really hard and I'm inclined to believe that it's not for lack of effort or good intentions. Farage and his ilk of populist talking heads make governing sound easy but, as we see with the councils they run, it's a lot harder in practice.

The most troublesome part is people disengaging with the nuances of the challenges they see in the news and going for the "let's shake it up" solution. After all, how could Brexit/Trump/Johnson/Reform/Scottish independence possibly make life worse for people who have struggled to make ends meet for years, live in squalid converted office blocks, have no meaningful access to public services and have been fed a steady diet of bad news? These people, and I include myself in that group in some ways, need to see tangible improvements in their standard of living before they have the energy, will or confidence in democratic systems to talk about the hard decisions involved in government.

For a few reasons I don’t want Reform to win, but calling people far right/racist/bigots for being concerned about immigration and child rose gangs is a sure fire way to push ordinary people towards them. We saw exactly the same with Brexit - mainstream politicians need to learn the bloody lesson.

Just a few bad eggs 🤔

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/epping-hotel-protests-migrants-neo-nazi-b2795022.html

I don't see anything like this on my social media. It is still cats, jigsaws and books. I don't search for or look at any 'lawlessness' topics either on social media or via Google. If I did, I'm sure it would start appearing on my socials.

@peanutbuttertoasty in what way? - give examples, because I don’t see that!

Yes but it changed while he was there and in the tradition of Starmer, someone else paid for his fees (ie taxpayer)