This migrant problem is going to let Reform in isn’t it?

They type of people who flee the UK if/when Reform get in will surely only be a benefit to society.

Not the view of the CEO of Lloyds Banking group (this morning on R4) - he was really upbeat about Labour's strategy

They don’t actually know, it’s just words they say cause they’re mostly idiots

Except poverty is a key driver of crime maybe not immediately for example some people involved in running drug gangs etc were raised in poverty and then add in a lack of state support/intervention and they unfortunately go down the wrong path.

Poverty and deprivation is linked to a lot of crime

As a woman I am more concerned about the out of control illegal immigration happening right now than worrying about who will be in government in 4 years.

Keir Starmer’s Twitter feed is full-on Reform.

@MischiefandMayhemManaged I doubt it was any different under the Tory’s either - it’s not suddenly got massively worse. What makes you think Farage has the solutions and there will be the money in the system for those solutions. You will get an income and brain drain if he is in - sorry , just as I predicted Brexit would solve jack shit ( it’s actually made the migrant crisis worse as France no longer bound by treaty to prevent it or accept returns) I can predict Reform would solve jack shit too . To be frank the most sensible thing all round is to do a Norway type agreement with EU and bring back that treaty and single market plus customs union - economy would get a boost and controls back in . I would say join EU but if we can’t do that at least halfway house. Brexit has solved absolutely zilch and made things worse -

Marxist? I think you either don't know or don't understand what Marxism is. Whatever the rights and wrongs of striking, they are entitled to push for restoring their salary levels to what they once were, given the training, the pressures and responsibilities of the job

I agree. Farage is literally quoting the MAGA playbook already. It will be far worse if (when, I think) he gets in. I became aware of Ed Davey a year ago when he raised his profile doing silly stunts pre-Election. Actually, in PMQs & at other times, he speaks a lot of sense. I think KS is good on the international stage, a better(pre) 'wartime' leader then many but fairly hopeless domestically.

I'm no fan of the hike in employers' NI and I think it was a mistake.

But I think far more people will choose to leave the UK if and when Reform are elected. It will be the only sensible option for those who can. Too bad for the ones who will be left behind.

Even the animal lovers?

What, even the girls?

Do you seriously believe the minister? We would have heard about it before now.

We need people who can increase businesses and not hammer employment. People are leaving now and jobs are going with Labour in.

I reckon we’ll end up with a lab/lib/snp coalition as a reform-Tory one won’t quite have the votes. Labour are likely to recover their vote share a bit before the next election but without some big ideas they won’t win outright again.

bit the field is wide open for someone to have better policies…

Yes. It is the reason why they are needed. In a warming world the UK will become and more popular. The population needs to be restricted and Reform need to focus on getting the current population match fit.

What area of the uk are you?

Are they listening to what their parents say, or are they seeing a reduction in their quality of life in real time, and think Reform will help?

I reckon Farage may well reach net zero immigration because a lot of the decent British people will leave if he is elected.

@NotDarkGothicMama and that’s the problem - the press downplay ( with exception of mirror and guardian) any positive things Labour do - although I must admit labours comms team need some coaching!! whereas Farage can say any old bar room bore stuff and simply doesn’t get challenged. - because media make their money in different ways these days, he’s great clickbait , you either love him and click on it or you can’t stand him but click on it anyway to see what tripe he’s coming out with - same applies with TV - he’s considered ‘good TV’ because love him or hate him people will watch . Most of the money in media is at the right wing end of the spectrum - those with shit loads of cash to spend in that area are getting it from those with that kind of an agenda, be it Aaron Banks or Murdoch or Russia - Farage was constantly on Russia today before the troubles - why do we think that is? Could it be they were funding him and his Chelsea townhouse etc? . Many people are gullible and just not media savvy , they don’t look at the ‘agenda’ - companies like BP and shell and various others in emirates have an agenda to very much keep many things ‘as they are’ - Russia has an agenda, — why do you think all the Brexit trolls with their sword and dagger and flag flying bulldog images vanished the day after Brexit, only to reappear at each election time with the Farage messages - they employed massive social media teams from poor countries plus Russia to bombard the system. Plenty of ordinary people too but hugely swelled by total fake trollers.

take the prison things as an example, where’s the teams coming from to do this given that most can’t get a kitchen extension within 8 months, where is the cash coming from given that he has no idea of the public finances, where are the staff coming from given that they have trouble recruiting as it is - itsall bluster and no substance - whereas Labour or can I even say the Tory’s would have been challenged on every one of those areas, not just allowed to spout it for the ‘you tell em Nigel’ brigade! Same with health service, if you are going to disband it as it is now, let’s have your proposals ‘in detail’ - kind of costs we are talking about to the individual, what kind of Partners do you intend to ‘link up’ with - otherwise matey you are just talking fantasy politics -

I'm no fan of reform, and hate farage, but I can easily see where people are comming from.
The sooner the labour nightmare are out the better. They are making a hash of this country (as usual). Making things everywhere far worse than it was before!
Thats before you start looking at the increasing immigration issue. Since they got in, My town has gone from having one hotel fully booked out to 3. They get twice weekly gp visits, free dentistry and all their meals.
the locals on the other hand can't afford to rent, have to wait 6 weeks for a gp appointment and we haven't had an NHS dentist within a 40 minute drive for the last 12 years, since the last one burnt down and never re-opened.

Probably
All the 16 years old I teach are voting for them,

I do have asylum seekers being housed very close to my house. It doesn't worry me. They are no more or less dangerous than the other men that live in my neighbourhood.

FWIW we have two hotels. One family, one male. The family one causes absolutely no bother and everyone is happy with that. So I do think hotels have a place for families.

We are in such a mess, people would vote for a tree if they thought it might be better. Our debt is getting out of hand, so where do the junior doctors think the money will come from? The BMA is so far left, I am assuming they support the mass immigration. People say tax the rich, but there won’t be many rich people left at this rate.
Council tax is going up quicker than wages, as are other bills. Jobs are thin on the ground. Graduates are fighting for the few jobs that exist. The NI rises mean companies have laid off lots of employees and are not recruiting. Teachers are leaving by the thousands, schools are crumbling, GPs say they are overstretched and are only in the practice part time. I don’t think it’s just immigration that will push people to reform. Wait til the next budget. That will kill any aspirations people may have.

Any party could commit to net zero immigration and achieve it pretty quickly - even with 50k immigrants arriving by boat (as Starmer fails to "smash the gangs". Yes people want the boats to stop but net zero immigration would also be a pretty good start considering we have a housing crisis and people are struggling to find jobs.

Brexit means that we can control our borders aside from the people arriving by small boat or similar hiding in a lorry etc. All other immigrants are a decision. We can but so far the Governments in power have chosen not to.

If the Conservatives commit to net zero immigration then they probably wouldn't need a Reform coalition because net zero immigration is the major basis of Reform. Net zero immigration is relatively easily achieved unlike stopping the boats. I think people are also a bit uncertain about the NHS under Reform.

If the major parties don't make big progress/big promises on immigration them yes Reform will get in for sure.