This migrant problem is going to let Reform in isn’t it?

Pulling the UK out of the ECHR? Polls have shown that 70% of people do not want this. We are already a polarised society and this would create even more division.
The following are some potential effects of leaving:

Loss of Access to the European Court of Human Rights
UK citizens would no longer be able to take human rights cases to the Strasbourg Court after exhausting domestic remedies.This removes a key layer of external accountability for the UK government.

Undermining the Human Rights Act (1998)
The Human Rights Act (HRA) incorporates the ECHR into UK law. Leaving the ECHR would almost certainly require repealing or significantly rewriting the HRA. Courts could no longer interpret UK laws in line with ECHR rights, reducing protections.

Impact on Devolved Administrations
The ECHR is embedded in the Good Friday Agreement (Northern Ireland), and in the legal frameworks of Scotland and Wales. Withdrawal could breach the Good Friday Agreement and lead to constitutional tensions, possibly encouraging calls for independence.

Breaching International Agreements
The Good Friday Agreement and some aspects of the UK–EU Trade and Cooperation Agreement assume continued adherence to the ECHR. Leaving may be viewed as a breach of international law or undermine trust in UK treaty commitments.

Impact on EU Relations
The ECHR is not part of the EU, but EU agreements with non-member countries often require compliance with it. Leaving the ECHR could damage UK–EU cooperation on:
• Data sharing
• Criminal justice
• Extradition (e.g. the UK’s replacement for the European Arrest Warrant)

Reputation and Soft Power
The UK has historically played a leading role in promoting human rights. Withdrawal could damage the UK’s global image as a defender of the rule of law and human rights. It could align the UK more closely with countries like Russia or Belarus, which are not part of the ECHR.

Impact on Individuals
Reduced Legal Protections
Rights such as:
•Freedom from torture (Article 3)
•Right to a fair trial (Article 6)
•Right to privacy (Article 8)
•Protection from discrimination (Article 14)
could be weakened or harder to enforce.

Increased Executive Power
With less judicial oversight, government decisions may face fewer legal checks, especially in sensitive areas like:
• Immigration and asylum
• Policing and surveillance
• Prisoner rights

Polarisation and Division
Leaving the ECHR would likely deepen political divides both within Parliament and across the UK public. It may become a focal point in broader debates about sovereignty, Brexit, and judicial overreach.

Devolution and Independence Movements
Leaving could inflame support for Scottish independence and Irish reunification, especially if people feel their rights are being eroded.

We can only hope that happens. Given then so many of you lefty loonies hate this country and all it stands for so much, I'm surprised you haven't left already.

I reckon Farage may well reach net zero immigration because a lot of the decent British people will leave if he is elected.

I work on criminal justice stuff and the drivers of crime are largely due to poverty and deprivation.

We have high housing costs, stagnate wages, high bills, high childcare costs and people just cannot cope anymore. We really need to fix the fundamentals in this country.

Migrants aren't the issue, we actually need more immigration. I remember during Brexit farage blamed Eastern Europeans for the reasons northern towns were suffering it wasn't the Eastern Europeans it was austerity but people lapped it up, he's doing the same with migrants. If they stopped all immigration including small boats we'd still have low wages, high housing costs etc

The next election is several years away - so that means the polls we are seeing today are largely irrelevant.

I think everybody in the UK is keen to get control over illegal migration. And probably nobody wants a migrant hotel on their street. Both Labour and Conservative - and other similar political parties across Europe - absolutely get this and are now trying seriously to get a grip.

I also think that the vast majority of UK voters, from across the political spectrum, realise there is no easy solution. And almost all are smart enough to realise that stirring up mobs of far right thugs to attack these hotels and their occupants is not going to solve anything.

I hear people moaning about the costs of illegal migrants and the crimes some of these migrants commit. They have a point. But we hear an awful lot less about the costs of policing these nasty demonstrations and the crimes those involved are committing.

We also need to be acknowledging the role of hostile state actors - Russia - in weaponising these refugee flows and stirring the pot via social media.

The British public didn’t care about the economy when they voted Brexit.

There were 2 things; immigration and the NHS.

And the economy!

And the economy!

Which certainly isn't improving!

Wonder how "surprised" Reeves is today?

And the economy!

We have four more years yet!
Hopefully the Labour immigration policies will be operating fully over the years in between plus the NHS will be better funded. The election will be won on these two issues.

I think it’ll be a reform and conservative coalition. The worst case scenario is Reform because they’ll look at abortion, workers rights, pulling as out of human rights commissions, the local areas will be in worse condition because they won’t bother their arses with the small problems that matter to constituents. I’d hope the tories would push back on a lot of that but you never know. It’s dangerous times we live in!

Can I just come on to update that sadly a week or so later. We have now had one of the migrants charged with sexual assault from the male only hotel. Thankfully not on a child and from what I heard thankfully the event was disturbed and it hadn’t got to rape stage.

I am glad you have had no issues. That is what people want.

There is a difference to the general population. They are resident usually. As in the community and the local police usually know who the wronguns are.

These hotels are transitory by nature. I dont think you can compare tbh. You have no idea who you are living next to one day to the next. Whether they are the same risk profile as your neighbours is highly debatable tbh. Incidence of conviction of a sexual crime in the British population is something like 2 out of every 10,000. It can go up to 50 for some nationalities.

Do you want to give a descriptor of your area? As in rural, town, etc. Perhaps you have found a good location and people can learn from this in locating more hotels.

Our male migrant hotel is c. 180 men in a village of 2000. There have been no sexual assaults thankfully. There is however constant unhappiness at the migrants. They have nothing to do except sit in the park. Which is next to the school. You often have 20 or so but can have 50 plus sometimes.

The kids cant use the play park as people dont feel comfortable letting them out alone. They no longer walk to school alone. And reports have been made on occasion about men standing outside school gates watching children. (Thankfully not recently so hoping these men have been moved on).

These men could just be watching the world go by. They have absolutely nothing to do. But I am not going to sit here and say people must ignore any gut feeling or feeling of intimidation, ‘be kind’, etc. If they want to be concerned then thats their feeling. And if they want to protest if one of the children is attacked then I am not going to judge that. I would want the hotel gone too.

I've read a few news stories lately of people being robbed of their Rolexes.

I certainly don't condone street robbery, but personally, I wouldn't dream of walking around with £10,000 on my wrist, especially in an impoverished area.

I've read a few news stories lately of people being robbed of their Rolexes.

I certainly don't condone street robbery, but personally, I wouldn't dream of walking around with £10,000 on my wrist, especially in an impoverished area.

I was going to say watches are harder to steal than phones but that recent crime was a Rolex, poor person

Think you have to live in the right parts of London to be robbed of your Rolex, diamonds

Are you for real? 😅
Nobody can distinguish between real and fake gems (which begs the question: what’s the point of buying real ones anyway? but I digress…) Potential thieves probably think you are wearing fakes and that’s why they don’t care. They want watches, mobile phones and credit cards nowadays.
Btw don’t tell me you are wearing all those fancy diamonds and don’t have money for a taxi at nighttime somewhere in Chelsea or Knightsbridge. Because I don’t believe you are walking home alone covered in diamonds somewhere in Bermondsey at 2am after lager and kebab 😆