This migrant problem is going to let Reform in isn’t it?

It is not even entirely an indoors issue. If a British area change so that most men are from cultures where women obey men then even just walking int he street and who moves out of the way for you and how they look at women has a huge impact on women not used to that kind of treatment. However I have just as much an issue with legal immigration from anywhere in that we had 1.1m new people last year and 1.3m the year before and there are just far too many people coming over the last 30 years. The 30 before that it was about level year on year. So we certainily had a massive sea change. We are very popular.

Thanks. This looks like we’re a particularly easy and useful market for theft rather than any huge difference between citizens re Japan etc and here.

I think that’s a really interesting point. I think in my head I have been categorizing them separately also.

At least the people already living here for generations could buy a house and have a reasonable standard of living so I disagree

and what is the point of building social housing if it is possibly going to people from overseas, it’s unlikely to be benefiting the people already here who have been in waiting lists for a long time

And other places recycle phones

"Mobile phone thefts - House of Commons Library" https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cdp-2025-0150/#:~:text=The%20National%20Crime%20Agency%20says,as%20theft%20from%20bank%20accounts.%E2%80%9D

They found a warehouse in China that was reporposing stolen phones from the UK.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3rdy132q3lo

Some people on the internet say they feel so safe walking around Japan but women there are victims of violent crime at a high rate - its just interesting to me how we separate these in our heads.

I know - this violent ‘hidden’ crime is so awful and I suppose it happens everywhere. I bet alcohol has a hand in quite a lot of it.
Korea and Japan have draconian laws about drugs - even a small amount of cannabis can result in a prison sentence - but there is a heavy drinking culture.

For this you’d have to trace where the phones are ending up and who is facilitating the crime. Do they end up sold at high prices o/s?

I know, I wasn’t getting at you. It’s very interesting, the difference between indoors/ hidden crime and outdoors crime iyswim. Some people on the internet say they feel so safe walking around Japan but women there are victims of violent crime at a high rate - its just interesting to me how we separate these in our heads

@MotherOfRatios

Do you think the phone snatching epidemic in London is caused by poverty?

Blackcordoroys · Today 07:45
They have unbelievably high rates of rape and domestic assault, though. It’s not paradise

I never said it was paradise. I said there was less crime such as phone snatching, mugging and shop lifting.

Better before 2000? oh yes riots, an NHS that was the worst in europe, care in the community, recessions - the ERM.. blighted ex mining regions, Right to buy but no new council houses built.

Lived in central London around the late 90s early 2000s, place was a dump.... went back again in 2012, total transformation, esp around the east of the city and Kings Cross/St Pancras, what a station.

But everyone has rose tinted glasses i guess.

Don't be silly, what was Enoch Powell talking about then??

Majority of EU migrants went home, your lot let in migrants from the developing world in their millions, they will never go home, even the ones on fixed term visas.
You voted for this, so stop moaning.

They have unbelievably high rates of rape and domestic assault, though. It’s not paradise

The culture is completely different. Respect for one another is important (unlike this country where the self rules).

^^ hear hear

Yes some of them were skilled and did contribute and it was good they could go back but there was also a lot of fiddling going on as well and it was a gateway for other travellers to come into the Uk.

someone selling the big issue for example (not a homeless person which was what it was set up for) is not bringing vital skills or adding any value

the UK was so much better before 2000

What tosh. Blair started this whole shitshow.

Uh?
Migration under Blair, around 200k to 240k per year, benefited the UK, we had skilled people doing the jobs we didn't want to do, many EU returned home as their economies improved.

We had real terms per capita growth too.

Bojo and Sunak took that to 1m per year, allowing in dependents.

These pair started the impoverishment of the UK

The two are simply not comparable.

My GP does on call at the hospital he's got to know the students. Ten of them. Their contracts were ending so they sought positions elsewhere for jobs starting in August. Only two have found posts so eight are now out of work. It's tragic when they've worked so hard for so many years. The incoming ten will face the same thing.

Yes it’s ridiculous and I don’t understand why people want to impoverish the UK.

Tony Blair started all this nonsense

I can't comment on Korea but there is less inequality in Japan than in many countries. It has been increasing, though, and so has the crime rate.

MotherOfRatios · 24/07/2025 13:27
I work on criminal justice stuff and the drivers of crime are largely due to poverty and deprivation

There is poverty and deprivation in Korea & Japan so why is there so little mugging, shop-lifting and phone snatching in those countries?

I live in a similar area and have never been mugged, My two teenagers and a lot of their friends have been mugged several times, including at knife point. The problem is definitely worse in London and in certain other cities to stop gaslighting.

Goody. Hopefully they'll be many more with you!