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Lifetime Social Housing Tenancies

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RowsOfFlowers · 26/06/2025 07:46

Am I wrong or being unreasonable to think that this new policy that Labour are bringing in is very unfair?

I come from a poor-ish background (as in no one in my wider family has any money). However, my mum and Dad did fairly okay and managed to move up the property ladder (through sheer hard work and sacrifice). My dad died a few years ago and so now it’s just my mom. We never received any benefits - and now my DH and I live in a house and pay a high interest rate (thanks Truss) and I don’t know if we will ever pay off our house (if I am to have children and go part time), so we will need to downsize. We don’t qualify for any benefits either but we are in the squashed middle, so we really feel it when anything rises in cost and don’t get any help.

I feel really cross that someone can benefit from social housing for a lifetime, no matter how much they go on to earn, and then if they pass away, they can pass it down as an asset.

I have a friend who’s parents came to this country, got given social housing, their children paid it off (40% discount) and now they all get to keep a £650k house in London. It doesn’t seem fair to me at all. I feel really disillusioned living in the UK.

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mylovedoesitgood · 26/06/2025 19:24

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WOW, 😂 Your mask is slipping now dear.

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K0OLA1D · 26/06/2025 19:09

Lioncub2020 · 26/06/2025 19:06

In classic mumsnet fashion. I think you need to educate yourself - if you think the current system works just look around. You've also pulled the jealous card - go you.

The reason the current system is broken is because the idiots in charge sold off the HA stock. That is why there are waiting lists miles long. We need more social housing. It should be there for anyone who requires it for as long as they require it. Very few people who have the means to actually buy their own home will stay in social housing. Me being a perfect example of that.

Its certainly not the pp who needs to educate themselves.

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 26/06/2025 19:07

Lioncub2020 · 26/06/2025 19:06

In classic mumsnet fashion. I think you need to educate yourself - if you think the current system works just look around. You've also pulled the jealous card - go you.

😂

Ratisshortforratthew · 26/06/2025 19:07

If you own a house in the SE, one of the most expensive areas in the country, the you’re privileged. I am too as a London homeowner. I don’t find it difficult or upsetting to own that. Rather than wish away one of the last secure housing frameworks we have, I’d rather we forced correction of the housing market so anyone who wanted to buy a home could. House price caps, banning second home ownership, laws against properties being unoccupied for long amounts of time. Something tells me OP wouldn’t like that either

Lioncub2020 · 26/06/2025 19:06

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 26/06/2025 19:03

😂 I'm splitting my sides here. As @K0OLA1D said, the private financial affairs of people in social housing are NOTHING to do with you. I bet you think it's FREE too. You do know the majority of people in social housing pay rent right? What am I saying, of course you don't know that! Your posts are full of horrific innaccuracies.

I'm cringing for you. 😬 OMG. 😆 As a pp said, should everyone know all about everyone else's GP appointments, dental appointments, and hospital specialist appointments too, and what they are all for, to make sure they are 'allowed' by the Uber-Judgemental? What about children, shall we all judge anyone who has more than 2, because all that taxpayers money is supporting them through school. Oh NO! Shock

Loads of people move house when they get pay increases. It is pretty common for people to move house. Some people just live in a different world of being nannied by the state their whole lives.

LOL, no they don't. Most people who have a pay increase just stay in the same property. If every time people got a pay increase, they moved house, no-one would ever stay in the same place for more than a year! 😆 And millions of people live in affordable, secure, social housing, (In fact social housing has been around for nearly 140 years.) People are not being 'nannied' because they have secure affordable housing, THAT THEY PAY RENT FOR. 😂

Tell me you are bitter and angry, and jealous of people in social housing, without telling me you are bitter and angry, and jealous of people in social housing.

The bile is dripping from your posts @Lioncub2020 . 😬

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In classic mumsnet fashion. I think you need to educate yourself - if you think the current system works just look around. You've also pulled the jealous card - go you.

K0OLA1D · 26/06/2025 19:06

Lioncub2020 · 26/06/2025 19:04

Given you don't think anyone should have any opinions on anyone else - why post at all?

Eh? Where have I said that?

Its you that's closed like a hardback book

Lioncub2020 · 26/06/2025 19:04

K0OLA1D · 26/06/2025 19:00

No one I'm feeling.

Everyone should just cut some branches off their magic money trees and buy their own

Given you don't think anyone should have any opinions on anyone else - why post at all?

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 26/06/2025 19:03

Lioncub2020 · 26/06/2025 17:35

It's social housing. Provided by the state. If you won't want people to have an opinion buy your own house. We can all have an opinion on how public assets should be used.

😂 I'm splitting my sides here. As @K0OLA1D said, the private financial affairs of people in social housing are NOTHING to do with you. I bet you think it's FREE too. You do know the majority of people in social housing pay rent right? What am I saying, of course you don't know that! Your posts are full of horrific innaccuracies.

I'm cringing for you. 😬 OMG. 😆 As a pp said, should everyone know all about everyone else's GP appointments, dental appointments, and hospital specialist appointments too, and what they are all for, to make sure they are 'allowed' by the Uber-Judgemental? What about children, shall we all judge anyone who has more than 2, because all that taxpayers money is supporting them through school. Oh NO! Shock

Loads of people move house when they get pay increases. It is pretty common for people to move house. Some people just live in a different world of being nannied by the state their whole lives.

LOL, no they don't. Most people who have a pay increase just stay in the same property. If every time people got a pay increase, they moved house, no-one would ever stay in the same place for more than a year! 😆 And millions of people live in affordable, secure, social housing, (In fact social housing has been around for nearly 140 years.) People are not being 'nannied' because they have secure affordable housing, THAT THEY PAY RENT FOR. 😂

Tell me you are bitter and angry, and jealous of people in social housing, without telling me you are bitter and angry, and jealous of people in social housing.

The bile is dripping from your posts @Lioncub2020 . 😬

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Lioncub2020 · 26/06/2025 19:03

Dontcallmescarface · 26/06/2025 18:58

So do you want working people living in SH or just those on benefits? It's difficult to tell.

I would like to see housing allocated based on need. If your a single person you have a small house, if your family you'd have the right number of bedrooms. If don't need social support you can rent/buy privately. At the moment families end up in hotel accommodation whilst weathly empty nesters live in large council houses. It is ridiculous. No one needs a 4 bedroom house for longer than say 25 years until their children have moved on. but it could be allocated to someone in their 30s for life. Social housing should be allocated based on current need rather than past need.

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 26/06/2025 19:02

K0OLA1D · 26/06/2025 19:00

No one I'm feeling.

Everyone should just cut some branches off their magic money trees and buy their own

😂

K0OLA1D · 26/06/2025 19:00

Dontcallmescarface · 26/06/2025 18:58

So do you want working people living in SH or just those on benefits? It's difficult to tell.

No one I'm feeling.

Everyone should just cut some branches off their magic money trees and buy their own

Dontcallmescarface · 26/06/2025 18:58

Lioncub2020 · 26/06/2025 18:32

Loads of people move house when they get pay increases. It is pretty common for people to move house. Some people just live in a different world of being nannied by the state their whole lives.

So do you want working people living in SH or just those on benefits? It's difficult to tell.

K0OLA1D · 26/06/2025 18:51

Lioncub2020 · 26/06/2025 17:48

We are allowed to comment on how we think the NHS should in the same we can can comment on social housing works. If I was to write a post about how it is difficult to get a medical appointment no one would say it is none of my business and the doctor can just do what they like. Although the people on this thread would presumably just think I was envy for those who had appointments.

The personal circumstances of those housed in HA are fuck all to do with anyone else. They need a home they have a home. That's all that anyone needs to know.

K0OLA1D · 26/06/2025 18:50

Lioncub2020 · 26/06/2025 17:35

It's social housing. Provided by the state. If you won't want people to have an opinion buy your own house. We can all have an opinion on how public assets should be used.

What a ridiculous attitude to have. The HA house across from me have no means to pay for their own home. They have a HA house. Does it bother me? Not remotely. Id have stayed in mine if I hadn't got the money for my own home. And it would be no one else business as to why I was there.

Lioncub2020 · 26/06/2025 18:32

Dontcallmescarface · 26/06/2025 18:17

Which brings me back to the question I asked earlier...what incentive would there be for anyone in SH to get a better job/ work more hours, if there is a chance that they may lose the house they live in...would you take that risk?

Loads of people move house when they get pay increases. It is pretty common for people to move house. Some people just live in a different world of being nannied by the state their whole lives.

mylovedoesitgood · 26/06/2025 18:32

Dontcallmescarface · 26/06/2025 18:17

Which brings me back to the question I asked earlier...what incentive would there be for anyone in SH to get a better job/ work more hours, if there is a chance that they may lose the house they live in...would you take that risk?

But that would depend on the hypothetical income threshold. It’s the middle and high earners who should be kicked out, although that would depend on other factors such as if they have dependents.

RepoTheGeriatricOpera · 26/06/2025 18:20

Lioncub2020 · 26/06/2025 18:15

Those who are wealthy enough to support themself?

Why is paying their own rent not considered supporting themselves?

RepoTheGeriatricOpera · 26/06/2025 18:19

mylovedoesitgood · 26/06/2025 18:15

This thread is about lifetime tenancies, didn't you know this?

I do know this.

That's why I said secure housing.

Dontcallmescarface · 26/06/2025 18:17

mylovedoesitgood · 26/06/2025 18:06

The point is about personal circumstances affecting lifetime tenancies, and there being millions of people who are deserving of social housing than some who aren't.

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Which brings me back to the question I asked earlier...what incentive would there be for anyone in SH to get a better job/ work more hours, if there is a chance that they may lose the house they live in...would you take that risk?

Lioncub2020 · 26/06/2025 18:15

RepoTheGeriatricOpera · 26/06/2025 18:11

Who is undeserving of secure, affordable housing?

Those who are wealthy enough to support themself?

mylovedoesitgood · 26/06/2025 18:15

RepoTheGeriatricOpera · 26/06/2025 18:11

Who is undeserving of secure, affordable housing?

This thread is about lifetime tenancies, didn't you know this?