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Labour voters….

261 replies

CurlewKate · 15/05/2025 07:06

…… what do we do now?

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ginasevern · 15/05/2025 13:09

inkognitha · 15/05/2025 07:37

Form a new party and give Labour back to the people it was created to serve: the British people from the working classes, maybe?

I don't think the working classes exist in the same way they once did. Not since Thatcher. Besides, they are pretty much behind Reform.

BIossomtoes · 15/05/2025 12:58

As a lifelong Labour voter I’m not going to make any decisions now about how I vote in 2029. There’s a lot of road to travel before then. If I do decide to change the way I vote I’d be inclined to go Green. However I live in Tory central so I’m effectively disenfranchised anyway.

WickerBasketPotPlant · 15/05/2025 11:30

I've always voted Labour, but I can't get on-board with starmer. Honestly, I'll probably have to vote Tory. Why aren't the lib dems stepping up and capitalising on this chaos, and providing a real alternative? They just seem to sit back and say nothing!

HappiestSleeping · 15/05/2025 10:23

Theunamedcat · 15/05/2025 09:19

Unfortunately I did and they did a 360 on everything now they have pissed off the local granny's and all our local councillors are now reform

Someone said the world ended during covid we are now in hell got to admit on a personal basis not a lot has gone right in the last five years

I didn't vote for them, but I don't think it's that bad. Immigration down by considerable margins (if that's what people want), winter fuel allowance removed for people who don't need it (the bar is in the wrong place, but the principle is good), removal of bureaucracy in the NHS, and quite a few other things that the previous lot didn't do.

Ultimately, I don't think they are any worse than the previous lot. Bottom line is that our economy is in the toilet due to Brexshit, public services have been underfunded for years, and Starmer has to move further to the right to catch the disenfranchised Conservative voters, without pissing off the usual Labour voters. He can't possibly balance that, and quite frankly, I'd rather he did what he's doing and lose you who may be unlikely to vote Reform, than to let the Conservative voters go to Reform.

Jackrussellsaremad · 15/05/2025 09:33

Theunamedcat · 15/05/2025 09:19

Unfortunately I did and they did a 360 on everything now they have pissed off the local granny's and all our local councillors are now reform

Someone said the world ended during covid we are now in hell got to admit on a personal basis not a lot has gone right in the last five years

It was always going to be bad post covid. I remember thinking at the time the state spending was going to come back and haunt us not to mention keeping our kids out of school, the effects of long covid, mental health, civil service WFH. We've wrecked our finances and the immigration of hundred of thousands of low/non earners that need state services had made matters worse as we don't have the money to build their social housing let alone the people already here.

So as a non Labour voter I can see that Starmer had to say what he said. But I don't believe he means that he will reduce immigration fundamentally as it goes against everything he's ever said (so I won't vote for him) and those on the left that do believe he means what he said are clearly also appalled but for opposite reasons. And for what he actually said. So they won't vote for him either. The former Red wall Labour voters are now Reform. So where does starmer go for his voting base?

Theunamedcat · 15/05/2025 09:19

HappiestSleeping · 15/05/2025 09:16

Wait for the next general election, and vote for whoever you feel most represents you at that time?

Unfortunately I did and they did a 360 on everything now they have pissed off the local granny's and all our local councillors are now reform

Someone said the world ended during covid we are now in hell got to admit on a personal basis not a lot has gone right in the last five years

HappiestSleeping · 15/05/2025 09:16

Wait for the next general election, and vote for whoever you feel most represents you at that time?

BisiBodi · 15/05/2025 08:59

CurlewKate · 15/05/2025 07:06

…… what do we do now?

I'd say that the first thing to do is contact your MP (assuming they are Labour) and get their stance on the things which matter most to you and/or challenge them on their stance is they are at odds with your own values.

I find They Work For You and excellent resource for examining your MP's track record and voting behaviour.

The point is that politicians are susceptible to public opinion, whether rightly or wrongly; if enough people raise concerns, and enough MPs repeat those concerns, then there is a small chance of change.

If your Labour MP, like mine, just follows the party line and does as they're told then it might be time to accept the party no longer represents you and consider changing your political allegiance.

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Zonder · 15/05/2025 08:22

Wait in hope that the leadership gets replaced and the party returns to normal asap. Which is pretty much what @Jackrussellsaremad said I guess.

inkognitha · 15/05/2025 07:37

Form a new party and give Labour back to the people it was created to serve: the British people from the working classes, maybe?

Jackrussellsaremad · 15/05/2025 07:19

You're in the same boat as Conservatives now. Unable to vote for the party that you've always voted for because the party no longer stands for what you believe in. Presumably.

That seems to be the way politics is going.