Scared about a poll I read where Reform wins outright in First Past the Post????

Same here @ChardonnaysBeastlyCat

No.

Bur I can see why they will win.

So you are not a Reform fan?

I don’t know.
Probably not, the same way Labour did not deliver.

What about Reform's policies though, are they robust, are they going to deliver, no point in voting for a party just because you don't like Labour.

Well, you should look into that before you do cast a vote in more than 3 years time as you may feel incredibly short changed again!

Well, if Labour manages to make Reform look better then there only certain conclusions to be made.

Yes, absolutely, I didn't vote for Labour but DH did and most of his family, moving to the right is not the way Labour should be going.

Many Labour voters are disillusioned because the party has gone too far to the right, so unlikely they would vote Reform.

But anyway. Let's see how happy people will be 10 months after the next GE with a Reform government at the helm.

It will make what has happened over the last 10 months look like a cake walk.

I don’t know if they will @Goldenbear. I am not a Reform voter. However I do know that Labour pretended that they cared about the elderly and disabled and I voted for them
on that basis. They lied to me so I won’t fall for that again. Liars. I expect many feel the same so they are looking at alternative parties as a result.

Labour's failings are just that though- they don't Reform's actual policies any better!

Again, you haven't explained why you think Reform will be strong advocates of disabled people's rights when they are correspondingly intent on slashing SEND funding in local councils?

It’s very pertinent @Plutocat. When people voted in good faith for the promises Labour made, only to find they are a bunch of outright liars and their manifesto only fit for loo roll, then those lied to voters will naturally look for an alternative party to vote for.

You are contradicting yourself, if someone chooses to vote for an extreme right wing party support their values, their beliefs, they are extreme right wing- that's literally what they are!

They will not win in a vacuum.

Talking about the possibility of a Reform win means taking about how they could get there, and that’s Labour’s failings.

Labour’s failings influence the outcome in the same way we had a change of gov at last GE. People vote against those in power as well as for.

Net migration is currently going down in the U.K. But obviously Reform and it's acolytes and right wing news organisations don't want that to be highlighted.

Otherwise what have they got? Their whole modus operandi is fuelling hatred of others. Just like MAGA and of other populists around the world; now and historically.

I thought this was a thread about the prospect of Reform winning a GE?

There are plenty of other threads to discuss Labour's failings. But perhaps some want to divert the discussion away from Reform's all too obvious weaknesses.

I thought Reform councillors were keen to slash SEND funding, that mindset doesn't really make me think they will be great for disabled people, what are they going to do for disabled people, they are all about going back to basics and the individual being King.

It looks like you’re not alone in feeling like that.

Thing is, they would do that. Same as with Brexit.

Everyone can understand ‘wanting change’, being fed up of current policies, government, feeling, and some even being, actively disaffected by a current government.
However, choosing Reform, voting for private health (probably a US model), voting for economic change to help their buddies, voting for loss of Human Rights bills, and hard won equal rights - well I cannot understand that at all. It’s the epitome of cutting off your nose to spite your face.
They will be a change, but a change very, very few will enjoy - though they’ll pretend they do, for as long as possible.
And btw, no they won’t stop immigration- their plans are unworkable. There’s also a similarity here with Brexit - people voted to leave with very different ideas individually as to what that would be - so will vote to address immigration with very different ideas as to what that looks like. The small boat ‘story’ and ‘blame game’ will also fall apart. They may lie about it all though - tbf there’s rarely an honest discussion about it, though I actually mean that quite differently to many people I think.

I'm mid 40s and not a Reform voter but your point resonates with me as I don't understand why people posting on here pro- Reform don't understand that I don't know anybody who votes for Reform, where I live is the most secular City in the country so it doesn't have these divisions along race and religion in any meaningful way, it is pretty left wing, liberal as they come, pro- Europe, family wise, Londoners who are pro Europe, pro economy, diverse heritage in the family via marriage and so not suspicious of other countries and their intentions. My wedding was a few days after the Brexit Referendum and it completely put a downer on the day as I would say 99% of guests voted Remain so I do think I really don't know of any Reform voters. It isn't that shocking a concept.

The one silver lining of a Reform victory is that the Reform voters would get what they deserve, and they would hag nobody to blame but themselves.

The downside is that everyone else would have to suffer as well.

….and it is very far wide of the mark of what they promised when I voted for them. Liars. Wish I could take back my vote.