Scared about a poll I read where Reform wins outright in First Past the Post????

I'm a Reform voter along with most of my friends. Conservatives and Labour have been useless and Nigel Farage speaks to the people. In interviews he's the only politician that answers the questions posed. He has political conviction. He will I'm sure make mistakes but I trust he'll put the British people first.

The same Canada where disabled people who aren't terminally-ill are routinely killed by the State via "medical assistance in dying"?

Do you understand what Sarcasm is.

How strange to claim the poster is “feverish in their belief” in Reform when they don’t support them and are simply pointing out that Labour’s lies and uselessness are handing R thousands of votes on a platter.

I’m so disappointed in Janice Turner, she’s really gone down in my estimation.

Why?

I'm not the person you asked that question of. But I did vote Reform for the first time ever in these elections.

Which of their policies attract me? Most of them, to be frank.

https://www.reformparty.uk/policies

However, to be totally transparent, given a choice I would definitely vote SDP as I prefer their policies. However, when you do look at their policies there is a certain element of overlap:

https://sdp.org.uk/policies/

Yes, the is the point I was trying to make with the PP, I'm not sure why people can't just be honest about it!

Some of the Labour haters would rather see a Reform government than a Labour one, even though they claim not to support Reform. I find that odd. If you support Reform why not say so?

As a left wing Labour supporter (so not a die hard supporter of Labour currently) I would far rather a Tory government got in than Reform.

Some will be loyal to Labour no matter what. I don’t think there’s enough in that group to stop Reform getting the votes. Mn doesn’t really reflect the polling.

You don’t have to be particularly wealthy not to be fucked over because you didn’t get £150.

Voters aren't just Reform voters; they are not the only people to be considered, to appeal to, whether it is unpalatable to you or not, Liberals have a right to vote for their values and their beliefs, it is not incumbent on them to convince you of anything!

Wealthy pensioners who are loyal to Labour are probably feeling ok.

That doesn’t apply to all.

I’m a pensioner and I haven’t been fucked over.

I see this has been quoted already but worth repeating

From the link upthread ( newspaper article):

“Reform is surging because the lanyard class refuses to listen to voters when the reality they describe conflicts with its liberal shibboleths. Voters are told crime is down, but they know shoplifting or vandalism goes unreported because police never act. They see the effects of unprecedented mass migration in rapid change to their high streets and NHS surgeries. With up to 1,000 small boat arrivals a week being dispersed, many more communities have a local hotel turned over to bored, undocumented, non-English-speaking young men.
When voters learn that hotel accommodation will cost three times what was predicted, while pensioners’ winter fuel allowance is cut, or that Labour plans to scoop up swathes of rented housing for migrants on five-year contracts when their kids can’t find a home, of course they’re angry. The idea the government will deport those without good English is laughable when convicted foreign criminals are allowed to stay. They did not vote for this, they can’t even speak of it. (They risk being accused of “dog whistling” by Lucy Powell.)
Like a national HR department, the government cares only about “compliance”. So people are turning to a party, as makeshift as a flat-pack bookshelf, simply because it doesn’t shut them down. It is not Reform voters who are stupid.”

"... my representative isn't beholden to my area."

How the system works in Scotland and Germany is that you get two votes.

You get one vote for the MP for your constituency, just like at the moment (although the constituencies would be bigger). So you will always have a constituency MP.

The second vote is for which party you want to govern.

In Scotland, whoever wins on a FPTP basis in each constituency becomes the MSP for that constituency. In Scotland there are 73 constituencies and so 73 constituency MSPs.

The second vote is then to decide which particular party you want to vote for and it is this vote that decides who the extra MSPs are going to be.

What happens is that they work out how many MSPs of each party there should be according to the party vote (it's called the Regional Vote in Scotland) and then award places to candidates from each party in addition to their constituency MSPs to make up the numbers to the percentage they got in the Regional Vote.

It's probably easiest to explain with an example.

The Conservatives won, I believe, five constituency seats (which is 6.8% of the constituency seats) but in the Regional Vote they got 23.5% of the votes and so ended up being given another 26 seats to give them 24% of the total number of seats.

The Green Party didn't win a single constituency seat at all, but in the Regional Vote they got 8.1% of the votes and so ended up being given 8 seats or 6.2% of the total seats without winning a single constituency vote.

So, for example, the well known Green MSP, Maggie Chapman, (who said that the Supreme Court justices were bigots for saying that women are women) was never personally elected in any constituency. She got her place because the Greens were awarded 8 seats in the Regional Vote and she got one on them.

No not all. The second on that list for example is based on the Westminster system, which relies on unwritten conventions and practices, along with written laws

Oh sorry I'm thinking of 1997, that's how old those clichés are.

Yes, and those from Islington...

If you don't like Reform presumably you wouldn't want them to win the next GE, why is that what do you think Is bad about a Reform government?

It's not the rich or the pampered who vote reform. They are the Labour voters. Labour being a luxury belief

You missed out champagne socialists.

Yes, some rich people vote Labour, just like any other party. Some vote Tory or Lib Dem or Reform.

The rich and pampered lead Reform. Any working class person who thinks Farage gives a shit about them will be in for a shock.

"...tend towards boring centrism"

It sounds as though you've been lucky in Ireland.

A PR system (like they have in Scotland and Germany, as well as other places) could certainly work here in the UK.

But it may not always work out how you would like. For example, take the 2015 election (that was David Cameron and Ed Miliband). Using the same PR system as used in Scotland and Germany would have ended up with no party having an absolute majority so there would need to be a coalition.

The coalition would have been the Conservatives and UKIP (supported by the DUP and the Ulster Unionists).

Can you imagine what a Conservative / UKIP coalition government would have been like in 2015? Nigel Farage as Deputy Prime Minister? Just before the Brexit vote?
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The 2019 election result would also have been very different. Instead of the Conservatives having an outright majority there would be a real rainbow alliance of a coalition with Labour, the SNP, Lib Dems and Greens all sharing power.

Jeremy Corbyn would have been PM supported by the SNP, Lib Dems and the Greens. I really hate to imagine what would have come out of that sort of mess.
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Then moving onto the 2024, Labour wouldn't have had a majority and would have to be in coalition with the Lib Dems and the SNP (although they could leave the Greens out this time).

You may not think that Labour are great but just imagine if they also had to take into account the ideas of the SNP and Lib Dems as well.

Do these countries have written constitutions with enshrined human rights?