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Councils now run by Reform - end of the beginning or beginning of the end?

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boys3 · 05/05/2025 21:31

So after 1st May Local Elections Reform have outright control of ten top tier Councils, and are the largest, or close to the largest party, in a number of others.

How will they get on do we think? Suddenly having responsibility and accountability for real stuff.

Just for a bit of context the recent National Audit Office report on Local Government in England.
https://www.nao.org.uk/reports/local-government-financial-sustainability-2025/?nab=2

These are the Councils they won outright. Number of seats they won and total seats on each Council, plus a link to the more detailed results. Some of the Councils have really good info sets with clear summaries and maps showing who won where. Others are a bit more basic. These councils deliver services for some 8 million people

Derbyshire
42/64 Derbyshire Results

Doncaster

37/55 Doncaster Results

County Durham
65/98 Durham Results

Kent

57/81 Kent Results

Lancashire
53/84 Lancashire Resuts

Lincolnshire

44/70 Lincolnshire Results

North Northants
39/68 North Northants Results

2 seats pending as ward election postponed due to death of a candidate

Nottinghamshire
40/66 Nottinghamshire Results
2 seats pending as ward election postponed due to death of a candidate

Staffordshire
49/62 Staffordshire Results

West Northants
42/76 West Northants Results

There are then 4 Councils where they are the largest party but short of a majority. Will Cons, or others, support them in any of these to give control? Or will others, incl Cons, coalesce to prevent that? We'll soon find out. If anyone knows already post away!

Cornwall 28/87. Cons have 7 seats so even combined well short of a majority. Lib Dems won 26 seats. I think more likely that Lib Dems will get support from sufficient Independents (19), Green (3) and Lab (4) to form an adminstration.
Cornwall Results

Leicestershire 25/55, so 3 short. Cons have 15 seats. So could easily support a Reform led adminstration. Or would they join with Lib Dems (11), Lab (2), Green (1) and Indie (1) to create a coalition administration that keeps Reform out?
Leicestershire Results

Warwickshire 23/57 so 5 short, Cons then have 9 seats, so could support to provide a majority. Lib Dems 14, Greens 7, Lab 3, Indie 1 - combined 25 so again short of a majority, Which way will Cons go?
Warwickshire Results

Worcestershire 27/57 so 2 short. Cons then have 12 seats, so could support to provide a majority. Or could join with the Greens (8), Lib Dems (6), Lab (2) and Indie (2) to thwart a Reform led Council. Equally only needs 2 of the 12 Cons to side with Reform to give them a majority and control though
Worcestshire Results

Of the remaining hung councils:

Northumberland Cons won 26/69, then Reform with 23, So the two combined have a comfortable majority, Or would the Cons look for support from 9 from Lab (8) Indie (7) Lib Dem (3) and Green (2) and avoid Reform. Northumberland Results

Buckinghamshire. Cons have 48/97 so 1 short of a majority. Reform only have 3 seats, but Cons only need support of 1. Equaly 1 of the 13 independents may provide that support. Buckinghamshire Results

In the others Devon, Gloucestershire and Hertfordshire support from Lab and Greens would give the Lib Dems control in each.
Hertfordshire Results
Gloucestshire Results
Devon Results

Lastly Wiltshire all down it seems to the Indies (7). Lib Dems have 43/98. Cons have 37 seats and Reform 10. Wiltshire Results

The final 3 Councils contested last Thursday all delivered Lib Dem majorities - Cambridgeshire, Oxfordshire and Shropshire

Election results by party, 1 May 2025 - Derbyshire County Council

https://democracy.derbyshire.gov.uk/mgElectionResults.aspx?ID=5&RPID=12080910

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Miley23 · 05/05/2025 22:30

I am in Leicestershire and I think local paper has already reported that Reform will lead without a majority. It is a worry. I don't work for the council but for a charity that fulfills contracts for the council so could have significant impact for us. The whole east midlands councils now seem to be under Reform control as well as Lincs.

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boys3 · 05/05/2025 22:28

Mickeychampionwhatgoodami · 05/05/2025 22:20

I'm hoping that they gain bugger all in Scotlands next election in 2026.

They didn't make too much progress in terms of votes in Scotland at the last GE did they? And of course Scotland clearly rejected Brexit in the referendum. I've a feeling you'll all do the sensible thing again.

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mummytoonetryingfortwo · 05/05/2025 22:28

boys3 · 05/05/2025 22:26

but labour will get the blame

I'm not so convinced that Reform will be able to make that line work @mummytoonetryingfortwo

Now if their starting point was that councils are starved of funds from Central Government they woud have a case.

But as we're already hearing in County Durham and in Lincolnshire their starting point is that councils have too many people.

In this instance I really do think blaming others will be far more difficult for them - and that they will be shown up for what they are.

Most of these Councils probably won't have set Cllr allowances for 25/26 yet. How they handle that will be interesting to watch. Because logically based on all they've said they probably should be looking to reduce those allowances. I somehow suspect that won't be what happens.

Respectfully, their voters don’t have the capability to view it that way

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boys3 · 05/05/2025 22:26

but labour will get the blame

I'm not so convinced that Reform will be able to make that line work @mummytoonetryingfortwo

Now if their starting point was that councils are starved of funds from Central Government they woud have a case.

But as we're already hearing in County Durham and in Lincolnshire their starting point is that councils have too many people.

In this instance I really do think blaming others will be far more difficult for them - and that they will be shown up for what they are.

Most of these Councils probably won't have set Cllr allowances for 25/26 yet. How they handle that will be interesting to watch. Because logically based on all they've said they probably should be looking to reduce those allowances. I somehow suspect that won't be what happens.

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Mickeychampionwhatgoodami · 05/05/2025 22:20

I'm hoping that they gain bugger all in Scotlands next election in 2026.

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boys3 · 05/05/2025 22:17

Whilst I admire and respect your positive outlook @TooExtraImmatureCheddar I think objective reality - particularly in areas such as Childrens Services - may prove different. I think the bins will carry out getting collected without problem. But only because it two-tier areas its the District Councils that do that.

As you say time will tell.

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boys3 · 05/05/2025 21:58

GCAcademic · 05/05/2025 21:49

They actually lost seats on my country council. Not sure if that’s because of their record as councillors or because they were Tory defectors.

Can we all move to where you are @GCAcademic 😀

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TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 05/05/2025 21:53

Nothing much will change. Council are mostly run by the staff, who will keep chugging on behind the scenes fixing potholes/running schools/looking after the elderly etc. The councillors may make some crazy decisions at the top, but it would take a long time for this to have much effect on the day to day stuff like bin collections. If a council was already struggling it will continue to do so, possibly speeded on by unhinged decision-making, but we’re unlikely to see anything particularly visible for at least a couple of years.

GCAcademic · 05/05/2025 21:49

They actually lost seats on my country council. Not sure if that’s because of their record as councillors or because they were Tory defectors.

mummytoonetryingfortwo · 05/05/2025 21:48

They will really, really struggle.

Farage has already trotted out the DEI line (councils don’t have dedicated DEI staff), and stated they will be stopping all flags bar the Union Jack, England flag or county flag being flown at council buildings.

Yes, Nigel, that will really help these councils with the growing pressures of ASC. Well done!

It’s a case of leopards eating faces, isn’t it? The quality of life in these areas will get worse, but labour will get the blame.

SpottedDonkey · 05/05/2025 21:47

I live in one of the counties in which Reform are now in charge of the council, having taken over from a long-standing Conservative administration. It will be interesting to see what happens next, because by all accounts very few of their newly elected councillors have any experience of running anything, never mind a large organisation with important statutory responsibilities, legal duties, hundreds of employees and a £multi-million budget. What could possibly go wrong?

scalt · 05/05/2025 21:45

Phil Moorhouse has pointed out that for the first time, Reform will actually be under scrutiny. They have never had any power before now, and therefore, have never had to deliver, Farage has built Reform based on never having had to govern at all.

With the smidgeon of “power” they have now: let them show their true colours. Let them fail. Let the mask slip, and fall right off. Not unlike Uncle Scar, who found that being king wasn’t as easy as he thought.

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boys3 · 05/05/2025 21:38

Not turning up not really an option when running a Council though @Sofasloth 🙂

As Reform are about to find out.

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SummerDaysOnTheWay · 05/05/2025 21:38

On the bright side, at least the racists have helpfully highlighted to us where they are all based now, so we can keep away.

Sofasloth · 05/05/2025 21:34

Well based on farage's approach they just won't turn up. Then they'll come back in a few years to complain about why things haven't happened. Just like he campaigned on the eu being a bad deal for UK fishing despite not attending any meetings about fishing when he was a MEP.

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