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Should the Tories and Labour agree to implement PR to stop Farage becoming PM in the next election?

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JeremyVineyard · 05/05/2025 10:35

There is a very real likelihood that Farage will win the next election Partly because of this countries outdated, first past the post election system.

Under PR(Proportional Representation) parties will usually get the same percentage of seats as their percentage of the vote.

With the electorate split 3 or 4 ways and a lot of people too disillusioned to vote, he could become PM with as little as 20% or 25% of the vote under first past the post.

Under PR Reform would get 20/25% of the vote and therefore get 20/25% of the seats.

If the Tories and Labour support a referendum on PR it will likely be passed as the other smaller parties will support it.

It may mean that the Tories and Labour need to form a coalition after the next election and while this may be hard to swallow, it would be for the greater good to stop the far right getting into power.
The Tories and Labour are both fairly centrist parties anyway so it makes more sense than the Tories and Reform getting into bed together.

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TizerorFizz · 05/05/2025 13:57

We voted on PR under lib/con coalition. Seems people didn’t understand it! Of course we should have it but it normally benefits smaller parties. Depends on system chosen though. STV is probably better. FPTP does often shut out smaller parties - eg UKIP who got 4 million votes and 2 seats I think. However if enough lab and con voters defect, who knows? Yet more idiots in control?

SomewhereinSuberbia · 05/05/2025 13:56

But if the Conservatives and Reform form a coalition then would you be happy with that?

Labour if this current rate is maintained will poll lower than Reform and the Conservatives have more ideology in common with Reform- the Tory voters would never forgive them for a pact with Labour.

Blackbookofsmiles1 · 05/05/2025 13:56

Labour and conservative united, god help us, both in power together, the average British citizen will be annihilated into poverty quicker than they can blink!

EasternStandard · 05/05/2025 13:52

There has been discussion about PR on the radio given the split between parties. It might become more difficult to function when we move too far from a two party system.

JoyousEagle · 05/05/2025 13:51

tripleginandtonic · 05/05/2025 13:50

First past the post makes it less likely for smaller parties to get an overall majority abd be PM.

I think OP’s concern is that, based on polling and local election results, Reform may not be a small party for very long.

MrsSkylerWhite · 05/05/2025 13:50

I agree with PR full stop.

I think the Emperor’s new clothes will be well and truly sussed by the time of the next GE, after 4 years of Reform councils.

tripleginandtonic · 05/05/2025 13:50

First past the post makes it less likely for smaller parties to get an overall majority abd be PM.

JoyousEagle · 05/05/2025 13:49

I think Badenoch will be ousted and Jenrick will move closer to Reform.

I think neither party will want to implement a system they’ve argued against for ages because it will be blatantly obvious they are doing it because they think it will now benefit them, and before they thought it wouldn’t. Farage will make a massive deal of this, and shout about how desperately the established parties are trying to cling to their hold on the electoral system and how now more than ever people need to vote for the non-establishment non-elite (ha!) Farage. And Reform’s vote will go up, framed as “vote against this establishment stitch up that is trying to take away your voting power because they think they know better”.

FrippEnos · 05/05/2025 13:47

I agree with Zonder but it doesn't mean that Farage won't get in.

that would require the political parties to actually listen to someone outside of their echo chamber.

Zonder · 05/05/2025 13:37

I think we should implement PR because it's a fairer system.

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