Reform party

I think it's more an indication that people are sick of being called racist because they don't believe in critical race theory, or 'anti racism', which deals with theory rather than actions of individuals and basically says that if you are white then you are automatically racist (you just can't help it apparently)

They are being fed up with being told that their views are wrong just because wealthy elites don't agree with them, when they are not actually in the position where their opportunities and services are being damaged by mass migration.

Also fed up of people like Lucy Powell using sneering terms such as 'dog whistle' when she really wants to just shut down that individual's views and cow them into being quiet because she disagrees with them.

We have different views. We should be able to discuss these things in a civil way without being called racist or far right.

Facts? It is you who has a lack of regard for the facts. Labour lost two thirds of the seats they were contesting. They lost Durham, they lost their 14700 majority in Runcorn. MP in Liverpool has said that Starmer is heading towards being as unpopular there as Thatcher.

Of course not. Just pointing out a certain lack of regard for facts.

Yep, none of which was in their manifesto. But of course it's the media's fault, not Labour's.

True. I don’t mind if Labour keep going on about how well they’re doing when they’re losing so much support.

Being oblivious will more likely get them out at the next GE.

Just laughable isn’t it

Yes they are

"We hammered pensioners, students, carers, disabled and farmers and said it’s because of a £22 billion black hole. But we will spend £30 billion on carbon capture machines and £11.6 billion on overseas climate aid. It’s a complete mystery why we did so badly at local elections.”
Great quote!

Are you seriously trying to paint this as a success for Labour?

You are demonstrating perfectly why people are pissed with Labour. Refusal to acknowledge, arrogance and constant lack of accountability. Carry on because this sort of attitude is what will lose Labour the general election

The Tories lost 679 seats, Labour lost 188 - go figure.

God it seems longer

Let’s wait and see, shall we? They’re not even a year into their term.

Oh they really are! To lose a council that's been under Labour control for 100+ years plus is seismic.
Only 9 months since Tories lost the election so not surprising they are still unpopular. Would be surprising if they were any more popular than they were in July

And my guess is Labour will never be either. Short and not so sweet.

This is a big part of it

Hopefully Labour won’t be either after next GE.

And not likely to ever be again if Thursday’s result is anything to go by. Whether they’re in power or not is irrelevant to the point I responded to which is that Labour are hated, clearly they’re not as hated as the official opposition.

But they aren't in power! FGS continually using whataboutery does nothing to deflect from the shit show that is Labour

The Tories aren’t in power though are they?

Are you even aware of how much Labour is hated across the country?

Not as much as the Tories. Justine Greening said this morning that they’re finished.

What do you think about the fact some immigrants (including immigrants arriving with a visa) are themselves homophonic, misogynistic and racist? Is that fine because they are the immigrant?

I don't think all immigrants share British values. And for the people that will ask with faux naivety "what are British values?" I would say for the most part they are to live and let live in peace, safety and freedom.

People are not a blank canvas. I don't think (in fact I know first hand) that not all immigrants believe that gay people and women should live in peace, safety and freedom. Different people from all different cultures also bring their own racism against other countries/cultures and religions.

I am well aware we have plenty of our own citizens(usually men) that pose a risk to a safe and free way of life for gay people/women and sometimes people of a minority group. But that doesn't mean that we should allow more.

@dubsie

I wonder whether you'll actually get what you want? What are you expecting from them is my question to you?

Until Nigel Farage becomes PM, he is not in a position to change anything. Hence, I have no expectations at this time. So, I will continue to vote for him so that he has a chance of becoming PM.

Only when elected can a party have the opportunity to make changes.

Yes. It is. They’re a party of hate. I am terrified by all the disgusting propaganda that is popping up.

in my local mum’s page in Surrey, they’re regularly making inflammatory posts. Stirring up problems that really aren’t there. They do it by posting anonymously too. I believe their trying to instil fear and then by product hate to create false social narrative to influence people’s votes

I’m terrified by the strong connection and backing by the magas of America and how this is part of organised plan to get the bored trade deal that will try to get uk to mirror the social policies coming in under Trump, the toxic over treated food supply trade and the privatisation of our nhs.

they have also started with the false claims about protesting near abortion clinics, not being able to silently prst in your homes. Then there are the AI videos of Muslims hanging out in the streets having long tables and feats outside, multiple children running around. I could go on and on

it is strong false propaganda eating away at the actual good of the uk. Creating false narrative.

very scary

I’m going to hold my hand up. I’m conservative. I voted to leave eu

id rather we rejoin Europe for safety in numbers when faced with what could now be the alternative, especially as Trump is dismantle decades of mutual suport and trade between Europe, uk and USA.

hell, as much as it PAINS me, I’d even vote labour than have reform (although I may do liberal as at least that party is strong enough in our area)

And Labour have shown that they despise farmers!!