Reform party

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At my dc secondary school, they had a mock election just before the actual GE. Reform won!

Blaming political parties and their supporters for the country's problems is rather different from blaming other groups of people, don't you think?

Ok as you wish. But if you take your post here and swap out Reform for other groups of people you might not like the outcomes that much.

You're right. The country would only be better place if we were able to get rid of all of the Reform voters as well as Reform themselves.

Because they are children! That's why they don't have a vote. Labour will 100% lower voting age though in an attempt to get more support, not because it's the right thing to do.

Ok as you wish. But if you take your post here and swap out Reform for other groups of people you might not like the outcomes that much.

You're right. The country would only be better place if we were able to get rid of all of the Reform voters as well as Reform themselves.

If they want to say that the UK would be better off without the people who vote for a particular political party, I have no issue with that personally. As long as it's clear that they aren't actually suggesting that anyone should take action against those people in any way.

Because they are children! That's why they don't have a vote. Labour will 100% lower voting age though in an attempt to get more support, not because it's the right thing to do.

And voicing that feeling online or offline is ok as you have?

Well, yes. As long as they don't act on their thoughts or incite others to take action, they're free to think whatever they like. As am I.

Well sure getting rid of people is one way to do it, but those people might think the same in return.

Where have I said that they're not allowed to vote as they choose? I haven't tried to stop anyone from voting for anyone, and I have no intention of doing so.

I do, however, have opinions on those who choose to vote for Reform. As far as I'm aware, I still have the right to form my own views and to express them? And yes, I do think that the country would be infinitely better if we could be rid of Reform and all the idiots who vote for them. We can but dream. It doesn't mean that I'm about to sabotage our democracy.🙄

You're right. The country would only be better place if we were able to get rid of all of the Reform voters as well as Reform themselves

Why are people not allowed to vote how they choose? Is there a law which says everyone has to agree with you?

True.
At my dc secondary school, they had a mock election just before the actual GE. Reform won!

Do people seriously think Farage is a good leader? Farage who supports Trump. Farage who criticised Ukraine? Farage who incited riots in our country? Farage who encourages racism? Farage who pushed for Brexit?

People behave as though if only Reform could be made to vanish, the country would in some indefinable way become a nicer place. I disagree.

The more impassioned and zealous the attempts to silence Reform, Trump and his like, the more these attempts contribute to a sense of grievance by those who feel the social censure they receive for their opinions actually makes them the oppressed. And this all fuels exactly the kinds of populist movements that are currently popping up all over the western world and have been for some time.

Of course it’s about potential votes. Although it might backfire on Labour and go to Reform.

Because they are children! That's why they don't have a vote. Labour will 100% lower voting age though in an attempt to get more support, not because it's the right thing to do.

Lots of fickle voters in Britain. Labour inherited a massive mess. Not only did the Tories fuck up the economy, public services and trust in politicians, but they refused to acknowledge this. Labour, led by a decent man, have been left a massive job to rectify this. The only way they can do this is by taking tough decisions. The Winter Fuel Allowance was a benefit paid for based on age- so it meant that Charles in Buckingham Palace got it as he's a pensioner, and my parents got it. They've just come back from staying in one of South East Asia's nicest hotels, and are planning their next trip to India. In short, they didn't need it, and often donated it to either charity, or my family.
Unfortunately, the country couldn't afford to keep paying this non-means tested benefit, which was a Tory bribe to pensioners to vote for them. So it was cut to just the neediest people. Likewise changes to PIP payments- not what most Labour politiicans went into politics to do, but there's no alternative as the country was fucked by Liz Truss and colleagues.
This has nothing to do at all with migration. Britain takes less migrants per capita than many other countries in Europe and worldwide. The easiest way to stop te boats tomorrow is to eastablish safe and legal migration routes from safe and legal migration centres in Europe. Most of the people arriving here by boat are granted asylum- which is pretty tricky given you have to convine a decision maker you are genuine- so are in no way illegal. And it's not illegal to claim asylum in the first place. Why the government isn't standing up to the lies and dog whistle nonsense spouted relentessley by the Daily Mail, I just don't know.
It's pleasing to see that at least in Canada and Australia common sense has prevailed with their elections.
I think a lot of people are going to find out that far right, dog whistle rhetoric doesn't get the bins taken out, doesn't help if your child has SEND, and their will be a lot of voter regret. In the meantime, the boring decency and unfashionable work ethic of Starmer will slowly but surely demonstrate that he is a safe pair of hands for another term in goverment.

It is, isn’t it? It has horrific attitudes to its indigenous people.

Wanting controls on immigration isn’t racist. If it was then Australia would be one of the most racist countries in the world.

They should reduce voting age, young people aren't getting a say in a country that is very top heavy.

As for proportional rep, it's always the argument of those seeking power but once they have power suddenly they don't want it... typical politics. I've never really considered it myself largely because I'm not sure it would make a difference.....

They should reduce voting age, young people aren't getting a say in a country that is very top heavy.

As for proportional rep, it's always the argument of those seeking power but once they have power suddenly they don't want it... typical politics. I've never really considered it myself largely because I'm not sure it would make a difference.....