Reform party

No one’s twisting your post. It was a fairly robust get rid of people. It’s easy to post such stuff online without thinking it through. Many do.

Why did you assume they were a Reform voter? Because they disagreed with you?

Wow are you an MP now @EasternStandard? That was quick 🤣

Oh are you not a Reform voter?

MP? Who are you talking to?

No I’ve not voted Reform if that’s what you’re asking.
If you’re now saying they won’t vote due to not recalling tik tok, well we’ll see. Some strange assumptions in your post.

Evidence of what, liking something on a whim? Yes, all the evidence is there that people who like Tik Tok campaigns forget about them within 24hrs, equally, there are many years to go yet before the next GE so calm down with your feverish excitement over Farage as PM!

You read The Times, isn't that a bit 'Establishment'?

Yes I do read the Times. I can't answer for Reform voters. You can dismiss the influence of TikTok all you like. The evidence is there.

Yes, a certain kind of young man that will probably never vote and actually base their political stance, if you can even call it that, (do they even know what 'politics' means) on a Tik Tok video, how changeable is that- they would have forgotten about it in 24hrs!

Aren't you a Reform voter, MP, of course you are going to promote this proposition, it doesn't mean it's true!

Sure. What I mean is that I would love to live in a country without far right extremists because I believe that people who hold such views pose a major threat to our democracy and to the stability and success of our society.

There is nothing sinister in this, for all that you and another poster appear to be trying to twist what I'm saying. It was abundantly clear from the context, if you would only care to look at it, that I was responding to a previous poster who suggested that some of us were suggesting that everything would be much better if the Reform Party just disappeared. I was making the point that the disappearance of a far right party wouldn't help us much if we still had lots of far right supporters.

As I have already made clear, I am not advocating that we harm anyone or that we prevent anyone from voting as they wish, so you can stop trying to paint me as some sort of monster that is out to destroy my political opponents. What I would like to see is an education system which teaches people to think more analytically and to critically evaluate the stuff they read on the Internet so that they can make more informed choices in the best interests of the country and be less susceptible to the malign influences of disinformation.

Do you read The Times? Does your average Reform voter read The Times- a bit representative of The Establishment isn't it?

Jeez, the Adolescence drama wasn't even that good IMO but back to the real world as that was a drama not a documentary! But the context your child is in is completely different to mine as like I posted, both of their school's and college vote in the mock GE was a resounding Labour win. Do you not think people vote differently across the country?

Not definite but a quick google shows support amongst young men in particular and why SM is helping them.

So, in a party where the median age of an MP is 60, how is it hooking in younger voters?

The popularity of Gen-Z skewing social platforms like TikTok is part of the answer. Reform was quick to engage with a younger audience there - racking up 308,100 followers. That is more than any other major political party, just ahead of Labour on 233,100.

No, it's not a joke. Have you watched Adolescence? Reform had a massive following online during the election campaign. My 16 yo is absolutely more influenced by what they see online. They don't read the Times ffs.

Can you elaborate by what you mean by this, it has sinister undertones.

I agree but you can only really apply critical thinking skills if you are an informed individual, I think the lack of reading books is to blame for that decline!

16 year olds are still legally classed as children.

Is that a joke, "they are far too easily influenced by what they see and read online" what, as distinct from most of the population!

I think 16yos should be given the right to vote regardless of who they would vote for.

The politically literate amongst them will be old enough to have formed their views by that age. Those who are not politically literate by 16 probably won't be by 18. Or indeed by 25 or 35.

I am very concerned about the growing popularity of Reform amongst young boys. I believe it is much less popular amongst young girls. I would like to see our education system get much better at teaching young people to think critically and to distinguish between fact and fiction online.

Regardless, I would welcome 16yos getting the vote.

Or it may well be, you are taking one poster's anecdotal reference as the categorical proof that this would be a move to the extreme right. They carried out mock General elections at my eldest's 6th form college and Labour won, they carried them out at my DD's comprehensive, Labour won!

Being called a racist when you want a control on immigration (like a lot of other countries have) is getting old. It's a word thrown around to shut people down and people are getting sick of it now.

@dubsieif polls show closer to the GE the younger age group are more likely to vote Reform than Labour would you still be keen?

Saying the country is ‘full’ is another way of being racist

But they are taxable just the same as a pensioner. All my children were paying tax because I set them up with Stock ISA the moment they are born that matured at 16...so it pays them an income...all of which adds to taxable income

I disagree. At 16 most are still in education. They can't get married, or fight in a war. They are unlikely to be tax payers, own or rent a home, or have children to think about. I would also argue (as a parent of a 16yo) that they are far too easily influenced by what they see and read online. Labour would be making a huge mistake imo if they thought this cohort would automatically vote left. As I said in a pp, my dcs school voted Reform in their mock election.

It looks like Starmer is wedded to it, it might not be to his benefit as first thought.

Majority aren't paying tax though, majority are in education still. Even those who are working won't be hitting taxation level at 16. Most kids are still in school at 16!!!