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Asylum - how does it work, what would providing ‘safe routes’ look like?

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rickyrickygrimes · 21/03/2025 14:45

I’ve been reading the illegal immigration thread 101 and have a question. Some posters propose that ‘safe routes’ should be provided, for people to apply for asylum in the UK.

What are ‘safe routes’? Where do people seeking asylum apply from - and how? Are there any rich / developed countries that have functioning, safe routes to asylum? How do we prevent them becoming a free for all?

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NancyBellaDonna · 21/03/2025 16:08

Bromptotoo · 21/03/2025 16:03

Only we don't.

Refugees in other countries can be given protection in the UK via resettlement schemes. The UK works with the UN Refugee Agency (the 'UNHCR') to arrange for the transfer of refugees from an asylum country to the UK, with the aim of ultimately granting them permanent residence.

Bromptotoo · 21/03/2025 16:03

unlimiteddilutingjuice · 21/03/2025 15:13

I think they mean things like the UNCR schemes.
The UNCR identify genuine refugees and the UK agree to take a certain number.

Only we don't.

Bromptotoo · 21/03/2025 16:03

As an advocate of safe routes let me explain. There are, for practical purposes, no way you can come to the UK legally so as to claim Asylum. You won't get on a plane to the UK without a visa or some other means of legal entry. It's either a boat, legal arrival with a promise of work and default on that or jiggery pokery with false papers.

I see two variants. One is for people from places like Afghanistan who have some connection to the UK, for example working for us pre the current regime. It would operate from neighbouring countries such as Pakistan.

I don't mean people could just rock up and be in London a few hours later. They'd be pre-processed for Asylum as would otherwise be the case when they're picked up in the Channel. Proper in depth interviews and full fingerprint/DNA etc profiles taken.

The other would be in Northern France. Same process as above. They'd need to show a connection to the UK such as family and have enough English to be able to navigate basic life skills in the UK. Prospect of work might be needed too. If they're refused by that route then try to sneak in on a boat they'll be straight back. Obviously it would require the active agreement and participation of the French and no doubt, as is ever the case some quid pro quo on our part.

It would no more be a free for all than what we have now.

If it doesn't work or there is clear evidence of abuse then it stops.

Given the lack of success stopping boats, or prior to that people under lorries, a bold alternative has to be worth a try.

unlimiteddilutingjuice · 21/03/2025 15:13

I think they mean things like the UNCR schemes.
The UNCR identify genuine refugees and the UK agree to take a certain number.

Maitri108 · 21/03/2025 14:59

rickyrickygrimes · 21/03/2025 14:57

What would these ‘spaces’ be? Like an office? Or something online? i just can’t imagine something that would work 🤷‍♀️

has any country managed to do this?

A building with people inside that process claims. I haven't heard of any countries doing it.

rickyrickygrimes · 21/03/2025 14:57

Maitri108 · 21/03/2025 14:53

You can only claim asylum once in the UK. Safe routes would involve setting up spaces where you could apply for asylum outside the UK and we would be inundated.

What would these ‘spaces’ be? Like an office? Or something online? i just can’t imagine something that would work 🤷‍♀️

has any country managed to do this?

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Maitri108 · 21/03/2025 14:53

You can only claim asylum once in the UK. Safe routes would involve setting up spaces where you could apply for asylum outside the UK and we would be inundated.