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Illegal immigration - thread no. 101

162 replies

MyNameIsX · 20/03/2025 08:08

People smugglers are offering migrants a discount for crossing the Channel if they film their journey so it can be promoted on social media.

Migrants are encouraged to film the journeys and then post them on TikTok, Snapchat, Instagram and Facebook in order to lure others into making the dangerous crossings.

In return, they get a cheaper crossing as the footage boosts business for the smugglers.

The new tactic was revealed by Paul Brisley, from the National Crime Agency (NCA), which has been taking down the social media posts in an attempt to stem the crossings.

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Bromptotoo · 20/03/2025 09:11

MyNameIsX · 20/03/2025 09:06

On the contrary, the floodgates would be opened, and the country overwhelmed.

Surprised and disappointed that you would want that, but there we are.

No reason why properly safe routes with effective pre-screening of applicants would open floodgates.

As I've already said it's legal arrivals who make up the vast majority in the current system.

BobbyBiscuits · 20/03/2025 09:07

I think there should be a safe way for people like them to get here. Put the smugglers out of business. The money they take off people could be used by those people to start a decent life.

I think that once they get here they should be allowed to work. As soon as they've been established and identified.
Otherwise they will just get sucked into the black market or go missing. They shouldn't be allowed benefits until they've worked for five years or something.
The system now is just torturous as they keep them in these awful places in the middle of nowhere with nothing to do, no education etc. they end up going crazy.

MyNameIsX · 20/03/2025 09:06

Bromptotoo · 20/03/2025 08:59

I'm not bothered whether people agree with me or not. My view is that stopping irregular arrivals is best managed by having regular routes.

In reality, for all the hoo hah, the number coming via small boats are a drop in the ocean.

Around 40,000/year while 800,000 come in on visas to work, study and join family.

Rishi Sunak now admits the focus on 'Stop the Boats' was mistaken.

On the contrary, the floodgates would be opened, and the country overwhelmed.

Surprised and disappointed that you would want that, but there we are.

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Bromptotoo · 20/03/2025 08:59

MyNameIsX · 20/03/2025 08:47

What a strange logic.

I’m not confident many will agree with you.

I don’t agree with you.

What about the number of immigrants?

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I'm not bothered whether people agree with me or not. My view is that stopping irregular arrivals is best managed by having regular routes.

In reality, for all the hoo hah, the number coming via small boats are a drop in the ocean.

Around 40,000/year while 800,000 come in on visas to work, study and join family.

Rishi Sunak now admits the focus on 'Stop the Boats' was mistaken.

MyNameIsX · 20/03/2025 08:47

Bromptotoo · 20/03/2025 08:37

The way to get rid of people smugglers is to provided legal routes.

What a strange logic.

I’m not confident many will agree with you.

I don’t agree with you.

What about the number of immigrants?

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HermioneWeasley · 20/03/2025 08:45

Open routes won’t solve the problem - there are many more people who want to come than we have capacity for. It’s very sad but we can’t keep adding the equivalent of the population of Cardiff every year.

WillimNot · 20/03/2025 08:43

Bromptotoo · 20/03/2025 08:37

The way to get rid of people smugglers is to provided legal routes.

The way to stop crossings is to change what makes us a good prospect for migrants on entry.

No benefits, housing or free healthcare for 10 years should be a good start. No hotels, temp accomodation, years of paperwork. Come here legally or don't come at all.

Guest status for ten years that if you commit crime you are immediately removed.

Other countries manage to stem it via harder outcomes for those who do still take a chance. We are too attractive to them with everything available.

When the NHS and other public services are struggling due to health tourism and interpreter costs, not to mention illnesses due to life style choices, we need to do more. The reason they pay smugglers is because we are seen as a land of milk and honey. If we make ourselves hostile financially then watch numbers fall

LadyKenya · 20/03/2025 08:38

I think open safe routes for people.

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 20/03/2025 08:37

@MyNameIsX , I wish there was some way of stopping these vermin’s vile business. They really are the lowest of the low. Thanks for the information.

Bromptotoo · 20/03/2025 08:37

The way to get rid of people smugglers is to provided legal routes.

MyNameIsX · 20/03/2025 08:33

Bromptotoo · 20/03/2025 08:29

And?

And?

To raise awareness of the ever-changing tactics deployed by the wicked people smugglers.

What do you think?

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Bromptotoo · 20/03/2025 08:29

And?

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