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How does Kier Starmer do it?!

165 replies

sausageupanalley · 02/03/2025 09:35

I am a similar age to him and am constantly knackered and am just utterly impressed by how the politicians such as Kier Starmer do it?!

Just looking at his last few days, on Weds/Thurs he flew to America and back for possibly one of the most important meetings there has been for the UK in a very long time. Then he flies back and meets Zelensky on Saturday which after what happened in the oval office was also an unbelievably diplomatically sensitive meeting. Then today he's just been on the Laura Kunsberg show and has left and is about to go and meet/host a meeting for European leaders!
He must be having to hold all sorts of other high level diplomatic discussions in between as well as keeping up to date on other briefings and then not to mention getting some sleep, if possible with all that going on and trying to see his family too. I have so much respect for it as it must be unbelievably stressful and tiring. I know your legacy would be part of history but they don't get paid that much, just wondering how on earth they do it!

OP posts:
KendricksGin · 02/03/2025 13:16

RedToothBrush · 02/03/2025 10:44

I'm guessing it's easier when you almost certainly have a full sized bed on the plane.

I'd need a lot more than a full size bed to get me through that kind of schedule. 😂

BurntBroccoli · 02/03/2025 13:16

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 02/03/2025 13:11

I'm a bit younger than KS, my children are very similar ages. Whilst I have every respect for him and the job he's doing, I suspect he's not also finishing work, making a meal, dropping one child at orchestra, whizzing round Morrison's and picking a different child up from cricket nets, before finishing off a couple of reports before bed.

Slightly more pressure running a country don't you think?!
And I bet he does do all of those things when he gets a break!

Fizbosshoes · 02/03/2025 13:15

Even without mental load/packing your own socks etc, it's pretty reductive to say he's "only" got to govern.
I started out having sympathy with Boris Johnsons government when faced with covid and all the strands of legislation that involved and balancing health v economy. (Sympathy quickly waned when more emerged about ppe deals, parties, Barnard castle etc)
But all PMs have a balancing act of where to prioritise spending etc. What policies will be acceptable to a majority of people, how to raise revenue etc. Keir Starmer inherited the CoL crisis, NHS crisis, many public services cut to the bone....as well as now the potential prospect of war. "Just Governing" sounds 100% tougher than the average mental load and I'm sure not comparable to most standard jobs

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 02/03/2025 13:15

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 02/03/2025 13:11

I'm a bit younger than KS, my children are very similar ages. Whilst I have every respect for him and the job he's doing, I suspect he's not also finishing work, making a meal, dropping one child at orchestra, whizzing round Morrison's and picking a different child up from cricket nets, before finishing off a couple of reports before bed.

So what? All of those things are totally trivial in comparison to the massive challenges that any PM would have to juggle, let alone a PM in the midst of the biggest international crisis in decades.

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 02/03/2025 13:11

I'm a bit younger than KS, my children are very similar ages. Whilst I have every respect for him and the job he's doing, I suspect he's not also finishing work, making a meal, dropping one child at orchestra, whizzing round Morrison's and picking a different child up from cricket nets, before finishing off a couple of reports before bed.

Sinkintotheswamp · 02/03/2025 13:06

This has been on my mind too. And when does VZ see his family.

wonderstuff · 02/03/2025 13:05

I think it helps having people around, like he can just concentrate on the meeting because everything else is managed. I agree though he has been so impressive and I’m glad we have him and not Johnson at the moment (or god forbid Truss). I think the job really takes its toll, when you see pictures of PMs at beginning and end of their term you can see how much the job ages them.

BurntBroccoli · 02/03/2025 13:05

Yes he must be exhausted!

That hug between Starmer and Zelenskyy brought tears to my eyes - I think we all wanted to do that after the previous night's bullying session.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 02/03/2025 13:03

abnerbrownsdressinggown · 02/03/2025 12:49

This. DH and I watched The Darkest Hour last night and I said exactly the same thing about Churchill - yes, it was clearly a stressful and busy time, but he didn't have to do anything other than govern.

Absolutely everything else was taken care of for him.

But even with everything else taken care of, there is an immense amount to juggle.

Most of us probably can't even imagine the weight of the "mental load" that a PM has to carry. The fact that the trivia of day to day life is taken care of is almost irrelevant when you consider how much else has to fill that space.

JasmineTea11 · 02/03/2025 13:02

I agree OP. I don't know if I could stand to be in the same room as Trump and Vance. And yes he must be knackered, fair play to him.
He was sweet with Zalensky yesterday.

abracadabra1980 · 02/03/2025 13:01

Crichel · 02/03/2025 10:04

DS and DH were sitting near him and his son at Arsenal a couple of times recently, too.

DH???

Citygirlrurallife · 02/03/2025 12:59

Another one here who has always been a bit meh about Starmer but he is really showing what true leadership is at the moment. How he walking that diplomatic line so well, being so clear and yet defusing situations is beyond impressive and makes me very grateful he’s our PM at a time like this. The fact he’s kept Trump onside but has still very publicly and demonstratively shown his support and empthay for Zelensky is inspiring - and by treading this line it cleverly allows others to shout louder about what we are all thinking about the Cheeto in his ivory tower…..

CarmelaBrunella · 02/03/2025 12:57

Imagine having to give sealed orders to nuclear submarine commanders.

CarmelaBrunella · 02/03/2025 12:56

FiveFoxes · 02/03/2025 12:54

I was confused by this too. Apparently sheets were actually blankets and things like that. One of Laura Kuenssberg's guests repeated the clean with different language this morning. And spears are javelins which are weapons. Apparently.

Yes, the javelins/spears bit was clear, but the sheets was confusing!
Poor Zelensky, no wonder he looked flummoxed. Plus he's got people spreading the rumour he's a drug addict 🙄

BigDahliaFan · 02/03/2025 12:56

I think they are jet lagged a lot of the time, not good when making such important decisions. And they can't misstep as this all matters so much.

Whoever compared it to being a working mum, well no, if little Timmy forgets his gym kit, or you blow up at your mother in law it won't start WWW3.

CarmelaBrunella · 02/03/2025 12:54

abnerbrownsdressinggown · 02/03/2025 12:49

This. DH and I watched The Darkest Hour last night and I said exactly the same thing about Churchill - yes, it was clearly a stressful and busy time, but he didn't have to do anything other than govern.

Absolutely everything else was taken care of for him.

He genuinely believed that the UK would be invaded and that was a very, very dark time. It was very clear what a Nazi invasion would mean. The only person he confided in was the King. That's why he and the Queen slept with loaded pistols.

FiveFoxes · 02/03/2025 12:54

CarmelaBrunella · 02/03/2025 12:44

Also, I've no idea what Trump meant by "Biden gave you sheets, I gave you spears" what sheets? I'd be thrown and English is my 1st language!

I was confused by this too. Apparently sheets were actually blankets and things like that. One of Laura Kuenssberg's guests repeated the clean with different language this morning. And spears are javelins which are weapons. Apparently.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 02/03/2025 12:54

CarmelaBrunella · 02/03/2025 12:41

Dear god. Imagine if it was Truss or Johnson, or that fool Cameron.

Even worse...imagine if it was Farage!

CurlewKate · 02/03/2025 12:54

I want to bring Zelenskyy home with me, let him have a bath and a meal and 12 hours sleep with a cat on his bed then send him out to face the world again....

abnerbrownsdressinggown · 02/03/2025 12:49

StepawayfromtheLindors · 02/03/2025 10:14

Because he doesn’t have to iron his suits, make his own cup of tea, take the garden waste to the tip, fix a broken window, drive in rush hour to take kids to activities, find something he has mislaid, call a plumber, sit listening on hold to his energy company for 25 minutes, change a nappy, go to ikea, drive himself home after a red eye flight from America………….

This. DH and I watched The Darkest Hour last night and I said exactly the same thing about Churchill - yes, it was clearly a stressful and busy time, but he didn't have to do anything other than govern.

Absolutely everything else was taken care of for him.

CarmelaBrunella · 02/03/2025 12:45

WhiteHouseinaRedSquare · 02/03/2025 12:16

Zelensky being a coke head is one of the slurs flung around by Putin fans. You'll be on about Florida mansions next.

It's just an attempt to smear Zelensky.

soundsys · 02/03/2025 12:45

Gastheif · 02/03/2025 12:00

Absolutely hate to say it because I admire him greatly and hated to see him treated as he was but I couldn’t help but wonder if VZ was on something. I watched it back and he is doing a lot of sniffing up and did seem a little hyper 😬

I (unfortunately) have known a lot of coke heads in my time and I really didn't get that vibe at all

scalt · 02/03/2025 12:44

This is exactly why I much prefer someone “boring” in charge, instead of the clown that was Boris Johnson, who made ALL his decisions based on what would be best for Boris Johnson.

CarmelaBrunella · 02/03/2025 12:44

upinaballoon · 02/03/2025 12:32

'English is his third language. He was ambushed by arrogant bullies........'

I thought that the 'playing your cards' idiom was probably confusing for him.

I also thought 'What a pair of shit-heaps.'

No, this isn't a deeply intellectual post.

Also, I've no idea what Trump meant by "Biden gave you sheets, I gave you spears" what sheets? I'd be thrown and English is my 1st language!

CarmelaBrunella · 02/03/2025 12:43

ParrotParty · 02/03/2025 12:35

Sniffing or other repetitive actions are common in stressful situations, as are rapid/tense movements.

That's true. Sometimes we sniff to inhale quickly in stressful situations. I think this poster's implications are not well intentioned.