The Brits are SO smart.

I just read Starmer said he will put boots on the ground and planes in the air to support a peace deal.

This was only if US provided a 'back stop' after the deal

Troops are minimal 30k and are peacekeepers

Unless what you've just read is an update on that

Britain is legally obliged to help Ukraine @Sleepington. If you are in a bubble, one assumes a neutral country, then you don't see it like that. The UK has actual commitments to Ukraine. We are trying to honour them.

I just read Starmer said he will put boots on the ground and planes in the air to support a peace deal.

I hadn’t seen that before now.

In these crazy times, I assume he means to support Ukraine. Europe together then. Thankfully.

It really wasn’t some amazing chess move. It was scraping the barrel to get Trump on side to strike a trade deal because the UK is fucked after Brexit.

All we can do is hope that the Republicans who he is actively looking to fire from their jobs manage to impeach him. Not sure if that is possible.

Starmer is meeting Zelenskyy this afternoon and is hosting a summit with European leaders on Sunday

Very true. This is a reminder to all of us that they come in handy sometimes.

Exactly. This person knows nothing.

Euros.

I know it’s easy and somewhat lazy to say that anybody who doesn’t think
Starmer is a world class politician is a bot. However I’m your neighbour so no rubles here. Just looking on feeling quite sad about how Zelensky was ambushed by the same two bullies who Starmer held out snivelling a snivelling invitation to.

I’m not sure the British royals are as popular as you seem to think they are in Britain. At best most people are a bit ambivalent.

How are those big roubles working out for you?

@Sleepington Perhaps posting about our Prime Minister from outside our ‘bubble’ is why you don’t see it in the same way we do. Starmer used British sarcasm and wit on Trump which was easily understood by British audience but not as much by American viewers. He offered Trump a token of faith that cost him nothing and was a smart political move.

Romanian royals?

You keep telling yourself that. You’re not convincing anyone else

I don’t need to convince anyone. I’m not in a bubble in the UK. I am looking in from the outside. Apart from gossip and scandal, the British Royle family are no more relevant outside the UK than the Romanian or Dutch royal families are. It is simply a fact. But believe if you will that the British royals are more important to non British people than any other other royal family.

He might not care about the royal family but he definitely cares about the pomp and ceremony of a state visit.

I'm not sure it's really that clever. Surely offering shiny and appealing things while smiling and using positive and flattering language is a fairly standard toddler-wrangling method that most mothers master very quickly?

You keep telling yourself that. You’re not convincing anyone else.

That is four years old.

The UK royal family means very very little to anyone outside of the UK. Period. I realise it must be somewhat reassuring to believe in the institution of the RF but it simply isn’t the case outside of the UK anymore than the Spanish or Romanian or Bulgarian royal families are relevant to anyone outside of Spain or Romania or Bulgaria, other than the UK one is like a soap opera which creates a bit more gossip and interest.

Trump’s re election has brought in a very different Trump.

@Sleepington

That is no longer the question. The question is now: is the US more powerful than China?

By withdrawing support for the Ukraine, Trump has made a situation in which the EU can unite behind a common enemy. As a whole, the EU is quite powerful. If they were to make a trade deal with China that cut out US manufacturing then the US would be fucked.

You can only fight so many enemies at once before you are overwhelmed. Trump has alienated all US allies (just like Putin wanted him to) and now they stand entirely alone.

Do you think Europe is more powerful than the US? I wish. Russia wants war. Trump supports Putin. Putin helped Trump get elected.

Spot on.

Trump doesn’t care about the royal family.

OK. 🙄

@Sleepington What did Starmer conceed? He hasn’t agreed anything.

People who have noticed that this was a two pronged plan from Starmer and Macron have been paying attention.
Did anyone see the picture of the prime minister at the informal meeting of EU leaders last week? I would bet my last pound that they thrashed out the approach together, making sure that Zelenskyy got his meeting with Trump (which Trump tried to call of several times).

They both went in friendly, open and calm. It was Trump who blew it all up in front of the press with Zelenskyy.

So now there is footage for all to see that Trump is pro-Russia and won’t help Ukraine. I think they knew this would happen but they needed the proof on film to motivate European voters to get behind more direct action in the Ukraine.

I would expect the meeting that is held in London on Sunday to result is all EU countries sending more money, arms and aide to Ukraine. Possibly troops from Poland too.

Trump has fucked himself and America and he doesn’t even know it.

It really wasn’t as clever as the UK population are desperate to believe. It reeks of desperation. Did you hear Trump saying did Charles sign it because it isn’t as meaningful unless he did. By meaningful he means it isn’t as publicly humiliating. Trump doesn’t care about the royal family. Starmer just showed he has nothing left to negotiate. He belongs to Trump. Trump, asking that question on camera, is letting the rest of the world, namely Russia, China and Israel, know the UK has conceded to the US.

Thanks that's helpful. I've been looking on sm where all the other leaders have been posting and nothing from KS.