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The Brits are SO smart.

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MsAmerica · 28/02/2025 00:37

Playing Trump like a fiddle, knowing his weakness for flattery and star power. Starmer begins by presenting a letter of invitation from Charles III.

Donald Trump given letter from King Charles on Ukraine war with special 'unprecedented' invite
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/donald-trump-given-letter-from-king-charles-on-ukraine-war-with-special-unprecedented-invite/ar-AA1zVHbC

UK Prime Minister Starmer Presents Trump With An Invitation From King Charles For A State Visit: "This Is Really Special"
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/02/27/uk_prime_minister_starmer_presents_trump_with_an_invitation_from_king_charles_for_a_state_visit_this_is_really_special.html

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Bobbybooo · 02/03/2025 08:01

MsAmerica · 01/03/2025 23:16

That's a very interesting take.
But we could also say: All some places can offer is the nuts-and-bolts of deal-making, but the U.K. showcases the value of tradition, culture, and civility.

I heard a joke that the King became an anti-monarchist after he signed the invitation letter 😂

MikeRafone · 02/03/2025 05:54

cait967 · 28/02/2025 07:42

I actually gasped at that. It’s like double think from 1984

Stranger than fiction

George Orwell knew what he was writing

Darlingx · 02/03/2025 05:38

ThreeThousand · 28/02/2025 08:17

I despise Trump (and his sidekick Chump). I imagine will enjoy his carriage ride and the state toadying. Then he'll do the dirty on us. This might placate him today but I think all he's really interested in is the bottom line.

Completely agree with this he is a man who thrives in Chaos. Not playing on an even playing field or by the rules. Like many disrupters he wouldn’t be in seat if he actually had the rules applied he would be screwed so of course he doesn’t play by the rules and will do a U turn when it suits him.

Jacquettes · 02/03/2025 05:12

zipperdedodah · 01/03/2025 18:53

What is really cringeworthy is that apparently Charles has been writing to Trump for the last four years

The source?

sleepwouldbenice · 02/03/2025 01:36

Mush62

We really aren't that desperate. And musk supports Tommy. Really don't bother

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TizerorFizz · 02/03/2025 00:05

We really would love a trade deal but the USA doesn’t seem interested - America first trumps trade deals. More likely to have tariffs imposed!

MsAmerica · 01/03/2025 23:16

Bobbybooo · 01/03/2025 19:13

Yes, it was a good meeting overall (well right until the meeting with Zelensky when the orange twat just kicked off) but isn't it sad that the only thing we can offer to the US is not an impressive technology or a lucrative trade deal but a pompous staged dinner?

That's a very interesting take.
But we could also say: All some places can offer is the nuts-and-bolts of deal-making, but the U.K. showcases the value of tradition, culture, and civility.

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Washingupdone · 01/03/2025 23:03

PermanentTemporary · 28/02/2025 07:13

I thought Starmer did a great job, AND it was embarrassing. Just the reality of being a small country with a big past and an uncertain future. But also the nature of diplomacy and democracy. If a major power votes for someone, however unpredictable, we've got to find some kind of connection.

@MsAmerica I wish I still felt the same about visiting America, we'd planned a big trip in 2026 but I just don't want to do it at the moment. Still love so much about the US in general though.

MsAmerica
Go to Canada, I think they will welcome you with open arms.

sleepwouldbenice · 01/03/2025 20:13

Actually it was more than the state visit, it was being in Scotland to plan it, and KC showing an interest in that, rather like he's doing on Sunday

The state visit will only be special in Donald's head

bombastix · 01/03/2025 20:11

Horses7 · 01/03/2025 20:09

I hope after Friday his invitation is cancelled.

It's going to be delayed when Charles isn't washing his hair. No date is ever attached to them for this reason.

Horses7 · 01/03/2025 20:09

I hope after Friday his invitation is cancelled.

Wildflowers99 · 01/03/2025 19:15

Bobbybooo · 01/03/2025 19:13

Yes, it was a good meeting overall (well right until the meeting with Zelensky when the orange twat just kicked off) but isn't it sad that the only thing we can offer to the US is not an impressive technology or a lucrative trade deal but a pompous staged dinner?

No, because Trump already has money. The ultra rich have always been desperate to hobnob with Royalty as its the only privilege that money cannot buy.

Bobbybooo · 01/03/2025 19:13

MsAmerica · 28/02/2025 00:37

Playing Trump like a fiddle, knowing his weakness for flattery and star power. Starmer begins by presenting a letter of invitation from Charles III.

Donald Trump given letter from King Charles on Ukraine war with special 'unprecedented' invite
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/donald-trump-given-letter-from-king-charles-on-ukraine-war-with-special-unprecedented-invite/ar-AA1zVHbC

UK Prime Minister Starmer Presents Trump With An Invitation From King Charles For A State Visit: "This Is Really Special"
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/02/27/uk_prime_minister_starmer_presents_trump_with_an_invitation_from_king_charles_for_a_state_visit_this_is_really_special.html

Yes, it was a good meeting overall (well right until the meeting with Zelensky when the orange twat just kicked off) but isn't it sad that the only thing we can offer to the US is not an impressive technology or a lucrative trade deal but a pompous staged dinner?

BIossomtoes · 01/03/2025 19:02

It seems highly unlikely in light of how impressed Trump was with his letter from the King on Thursday.

Wildflowers99 · 01/03/2025 18:58

zipperdedodah · 01/03/2025 18:53

What is really cringeworthy is that apparently Charles has been writing to Trump for the last four years

I hope so. I hope they’ve built up a ‘friendship’ which enables Charles to at least attempt to appeal to his better nature… if there is one at all.

BIossomtoes · 01/03/2025 18:57

zipperdedodah · 01/03/2025 18:53

What is really cringeworthy is that apparently Charles has been writing to Trump for the last four years

Where did you get that from - other than an overactive imagination?

zipperdedodah · 01/03/2025 18:53

What is really cringeworthy is that apparently Charles has been writing to Trump for the last four years

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 01/03/2025 17:26

sleepwouldbenice · 01/03/2025 17:11

Incorrect
Although Donald may tantrum over it now

The card was relevant when it was played, things have moved on now.

Also, it was for a state visit, not just for a meeting. Two completely different things.

I agree though that Trump will be miffed about it.

sleepwouldbenice · 01/03/2025 17:11

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 01/03/2025 14:40

Starmer’s card is utterly irrelevant now.

Incorrect
Although Donald may tantrum over it now

BIossomtoes · 01/03/2025 16:43

Zelenskyy is meeting the King tomorrow. Suddenly the card becomes relevant as fuck.

Bontonbonbon · 01/03/2025 14:52

I think he played it just on time. It was a symbol that the U.K. are friendly and acting in good faith. The audience for the gesture wasn’t Trump but other international leaders and the populations of friendly countries.

It was a signal that the U.K. government is behaving in an open, friendly manner and that they are willing to talk. When Trump rejects this it will be his choice and therefore his fault. It’s international relations 101. It’s exactly what Trump doesn’t understand.

Starmer has an eye to negotiojs with other world leader. He can legitimately say ‘Look, we tried and he’s proved himself a mad man.’

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 01/03/2025 14:40

AnxiousRose · 01/03/2025 14:36

I think Starmer played his card too soon by actually giving the invitation. He should have said he hoped that they could work well together and hoped to organise a second state visit in the future.

Starmer’s card is utterly irrelevant now.

AnxiousRose · 01/03/2025 14:36

I think Starmer played his card too soon by actually giving the invitation. He should have said he hoped that they could work well together and hoped to organise a second state visit in the future.

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