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Reform - we knew it, right?

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nearlylovemyusername · 24/02/2025 16:11

Ex-leader of Reform in Wales accused of taking bribes for pro-Russia messages

" The former leader of Reform UK in Wales appeared in court on Monday accused of accepting bribes in exchange for making statements in the European parliament that would benefit Russia.
Nathan Gill is facing eight counts of bribery and one of conspiracy to commit bribery. The court heard he allegedly received money from former Ukrainian politician Oleg Voloshyn to make statements about events in the country that were supportive of Russia’s narrative, according to the Press Association.
His comments in the European parliament and in articles written for news outlets were “supportive of a particular narrative” that would “benefit Russia regarding events in Ukraine”, the court heard. His media appearances included 112 Ukraine, a pro-Russian channel that was banned by Ukraine in 2021."

I don't understand why it's not on front pages of all accessible news outlets, esp given developments in US.

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Circularmadness · 23/11/2025 14:32

Alltheunreadbooks · 23/11/2025 10:13

Does anyone still think that Reform Ltd have Britains best interests at heart?

Self serving grifters with 'for sale' signs on their backs. They don't give a shit about the British public.

Hopefully further investigations will finally reveal what most people know - Farage is firmly on Russia's payroll and is nothing but a traitorous snake.

I think they are traitors. I feel strongly that there should be a through investigation of Russian interference in uk politics. I think Nathan Gill is just the tip of the iceberg and Farage was absolutely saying the same things, parroting Russian propaganda.
I also think that Social Media accounts should show the general country that they originate from. It was very telling that when X briefly displayed this the majority of hardcore MAGA accounts purporting to be American “patriots” originated from Russia, Nigeria etc. This is modern warfare and if you can manipulate a population to further your aims then it’s literally half the battle. We need to wake up and shine a light on this.

Reform - we knew it, right?
Alltheunreadbooks · 23/11/2025 10:13

Does anyone still think that Reform Ltd have Britains best interests at heart?

Self serving grifters with 'for sale' signs on their backs. They don't give a shit about the British public.

Hopefully further investigations will finally reveal what most people know - Farage is firmly on Russia's payroll and is nothing but a traitorous snake.

GlobeTrotter2000 · 03/03/2025 18:42

@DuncinToffee

Why did you omit to say it was Dubai?

Dubai population is approx 75% expat and probably the most liberal of all Muslim states. Alcohol is freely available and women are not required to wear the black burkas like the natives.

If you visit the older parts of Dubai, you will see the streets littered with call girls/boys business cards. I thought Thailand was the worst for that type of activity, but Dubai is far worse.

Residence and work permits are required and are one year renewable. It’s possible for non nationals to buy property, but it does not lead to citizenship.

Foreigners can become citizens via the following:

Naturalisation after 30 years;

or,

Marriage to an Emirati;

or,

Granted by the Government based on exceptional merit

Benefits to those on low income is a “whopping” AED 750 per year, Approx £150.

Since Brexit, I have worked in; Belgium, France, Germany and the Netherlands. It has never been a requirement that I speak the local language.

DuncinToffee · 03/03/2025 11:23

Funny then that Tice's partner has emigrated to a Muslim country

Maitri108 · 03/03/2025 11:05

DeadSpace3 · 03/03/2025 03:57

Because multiculturalism has worked so well in the west... not.

You still haven't answered my question: how many people have been killed in Islamic attacks in the UK/EU in the last 10 years compared with the far right?

Or even: in the 10 years, how many girls in the UK have been raped by Muslim grooming gangs compared with anyone whatsoever from the "far right"?

But it's obviously "too tedious" to understand the truth.

I get it, you don't like Muslims. What exactly do you want Reform to do about Muslims?

DeadSpace3 · 03/03/2025 03:57

Maitri108 · 03/03/2025 01:19

The far left? Communists? Where are you arguing with Communists and revolutionaries?

Are the Communists saying you're far right because you want an ethnostate?

Because multiculturalism has worked so well in the west... not.

You still haven't answered my question: how many people have been killed in Islamic attacks in the UK/EU in the last 10 years compared with the far right?

Or even: in the 10 years, how many girls in the UK have been raped by Muslim grooming gangs compared with anyone whatsoever from the "far right"?

But it's obviously "too tedious" to understand the truth.

1984reallywasagoodbook · 03/03/2025 01:26

Maitri108 · 03/03/2025 01:19

The far left? Communists? Where are you arguing with Communists and revolutionaries?

Are the Communists saying you're far right because you want an ethnostate?

You’re much cleverer than me, so my point may not be as elegant. But I think I understand yours. Far right and far left are lazy slurs.

Maitri108 · 03/03/2025 01:19

1984reallywasagoodbook · 03/03/2025 01:16

Because where I apparently disagree with the far left are led by the fears I have that I never used to have in my day to day life. I no longer think we can harmoniously be the ‘melting pot’ of cultures we used to pride ourselves on as a nation given the over population and clashing of ideals. I now worry about safety a great deal. I hope I’m irrational but I read too much. I used to have so much hope and vigour for the UK. I’m tired of defending my thoughts that seem rational to me.

The far left? Communists? Where are you arguing with Communists and revolutionaries?

Are the Communists saying you're far right because you want an ethnostate?

1984reallywasagoodbook · 03/03/2025 01:16

Maitri108 · 03/03/2025 01:06

Why are people branding you far right?

Because where I apparently disagree with the far left are led by the fears I have that I never used to have in my day to day life. I no longer think we can harmoniously be the ‘melting pot’ of cultures we used to pride ourselves on as a nation given the over population and clashing of ideals. I now worry about safety a great deal. I hope I’m irrational but I read too much. I used to have so much hope and vigour for the UK. I’m tired of defending my thoughts that seem rational to me.

Maitri108 · 03/03/2025 01:06

1984reallywasagoodbook · 03/03/2025 01:03

I’m a centrist branded far right that agrees with much of what you do.

Why are people branding you far right?

1984reallywasagoodbook · 03/03/2025 01:03

crackofdoom · 25/02/2025 21:42

No. On the far right. Nice try with your whataboutery, but nope. I am what you'd call the "far left", and we spend all our time reading books about economics and wringing our hands about biodiversity decline and insufficient social housing. Not taking backhanders from foreign dictators to destabilise our democracy 🙄

I’m a centrist branded far right that agrees with much of what you do.

travellinglighter · 03/03/2025 00:36

TheNuthatch · 26/02/2025 09:09

So you are now condemning Johnson for not being a Russian sympathiser? Explain how that is a bad thing?

If you support Ukraine, you should at least be capable of affording Johnson some credit for his stance on this issue.

No, I’m condemning Boris for being a liar and a traitor. Whose ambition led him to seek office and to take money and favours from Russian oligarchs. His stance on Ukraine was commendable but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

TooBigForMyBoots · 02/03/2025 21:36

Here's what he's saying. I agree he was definitely sacked.😆 Can't wait to find out why.

www.darrengrimes.com/p/welcome-to-the-fightback/comments?utm_source=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true

DuncinToffee · 02/03/2025 21:11

TooBigForMyBoots · 02/03/2025 20:21

Can't see anything other than Grimes has stepped down and is being very gracious towards GBN.

I wonder if the sexual harassment allegations against him are about to get worse.🤔

I only read that he was sacked. His recent tweets were horrible so I thought maybe he had gone too far this time.

DeadSpace3 · 02/03/2025 21:09

LMAO. Typical lefties, can dish out jibes but can't give straight answers 😂😂😂

TooBigForMyBoots · 02/03/2025 20:21

Can't see anything other than Grimes has stepped down and is being very gracious towards GBN.

I wonder if the sexual harassment allegations against him are about to get worse.🤔

TooBigForMyBoots · 02/03/2025 20:11

DuncinToffee · 02/03/2025 19:03

GB news have just sacked Darren Grimes for being even too racist for them, not sure where that poster can turn to now

Fucking hell, it must have been bad.🤯
<<off I go to get the biz>>

LastTrainsEast · 02/03/2025 19:42

Unfortunately many politicians are 1 small step from being outright criminals. It's what we have to work with and what the parties have to work with.

Remember the expenses scandals? I think the only one without reason to be ashamed was Jeremy Corbyn. Now I can't stand the guy, but on this one thing he was the most honest of them all.

There are no heroes to follow and be loyal to. You have to support an MP on a policy you both agree on and oppose him on the others. Then you pick the party which is closest to doing what you need and vote for them this time, but maybe not next time depending on how they turn out.

Party loyalty is for people who see everything as black and white and miss everything in between.

Maitri108 · 02/03/2025 19:37

DuncinToffee · 02/03/2025 19:27

Laurence Fox, yes and the priest Calvin Robinson.

The latter got sacked frrom his church as well after giving a nazi salute at a maga event a few weeks back.

Edited

And Wootton.

There's a very amusing article about him here.

DuncinToffee · 02/03/2025 19:27

Maitri108 · 02/03/2025 19:09

Didn't they get rid off that Lewis actor as well? I suppose they can't come across as too swivel eyed or they'll lose their license.

Laurence Fox, yes and the priest Calvin Robinson.

The latter got sacked frrom his church as well after giving a nazi salute at a maga event a few weeks back.

Maitri108 · 02/03/2025 19:09

DuncinToffee · 02/03/2025 19:03

GB news have just sacked Darren Grimes for being even too racist for them, not sure where that poster can turn to now

Didn't they get rid off that Lewis actor as well? I suppose they can't come across as too swivel eyed or they'll lose their license.

DuncinToffee · 02/03/2025 19:03

Maitri108 · 02/03/2025 18:59

It's very tedious to listen to. Don't you have some kind of echo chamber where you can pound away at the keyboard about Muslims? What's wrong with the Daily Mail comments section?

No doubt you get the 'real news' beamed straight to your TV.

GB news have just sacked Darren Grimes for being even too racist for them, not sure where that poster can turn to now

Maitri108 · 02/03/2025 18:59

DeadSpace3 · 02/03/2025 18:52

lol, so again, how many people have been killed in Islamic attacks in the UK/EU in the last 10 years compared with the far right? The rise of the "far right" is a reaction to that. If gullible lefties hadn't opened the borders to everyone, there would be no "far right" right now. You seem to be concerned only with the symptoms and not the cause, if you looked at all the news and not just MSM, you'd know that.

As for politicians, I've worked with MPs, councillors and a mayor; and I wouldn't trust anyone from any party to walk my dog. If you think Reform politicians are worse than Labour, they're not, they are all as bad as each other.

It's very tedious to listen to. Don't you have some kind of echo chamber where you can pound away at the keyboard about Muslims? What's wrong with the Daily Mail comments section?

No doubt you get the 'real news' beamed straight to your TV.

DuncinToffee · 02/03/2025 18:55

I wouldn't have called the Conservatives government 'gullible lefties'

And looking at all news, which outlets do you think we are missing out on?

DeadSpace3 · 02/03/2025 18:52

Maitri108 · 02/03/2025 18:43

I'm assuming you're a Reform voter and therefore snigger behind your hand when it's accused of being far right.

You probably think supporting Putin is a sign of strength and banging on about Islam is only 'rational'.

I assume you don't read the news but if you look around at what's happening in the world; the rise of the far right in Europe and what's going on in the States, it may give you pause.

You can throw membership stats around, they mean nothing. Reform won a few seats in Parliament. They're not the political juggernaut you think they are.

It's all a bit desperate and sad to want a workshy spiv running the country but here we are.

lol, so again, how many people have been killed in Islamic attacks in the UK/EU in the last 10 years compared with the far right? The rise of the "far right" is a reaction to that. If gullible lefties hadn't opened the borders to everyone, there would be no "far right" right now. You seem to be concerned only with the symptoms and not the cause, if you looked at all the news and not just MSM, you'd know that.

As for politicians, I've worked with MPs, councillors and a mayor; and I wouldn't trust anyone from any party to walk my dog. If you think Reform politicians are worse than Labour, they're not, they are all as bad as each other.