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Radicalisation of older people

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colinthedogfromaccounts · 19/02/2025 22:37

My dad (late 70s) has gone full gangster conspiracy theorist. His long list of increasingly radical beliefs include:

Chemtrails control us
WHO created the pandemic
The EU is evil.
Big pharma is poisoning us (he has given up all his life saving meds)
Vaccinations are a control mechanism
Bill Gates is responsible for the weather
The Democrats wanted world war
Gaza is not real - it's all made up to persecute the Jews

The list goes on. My worry is that this radicalisation is putting his health at risk, so I would like to really understand the psychology to approach this with as much evidence as possible.

Sources are sketchy online (specifically relating to how and why older people become radicalised) - wondering if anybody has any research based insights into this.

OP posts:
justasking111 · 20/02/2025 15:22

Can anyone open this it's behind a pay wall. I think the gist of it is that AI fools older people

Radicalisation of older people
trainermush · 20/02/2025 14:58

I mean you asked the below

"How can that be a thing?" hence why I was trying to answer 😆😆

trainermush · 20/02/2025 14:58

I understood that you are saying the DM and similar has nothing to do with the rise in conspiracy theories and how that is hitting more older people. Fair enough.

JasmineAllen · 20/02/2025 14:54

trainermush · 20/02/2025 14:53

But I was referring to the online version in my original comment. I genuinely don't understand what you are not understanding

I don't understand what you're not understanding either 😂
I think we must be talking at cross purposes 🙂

trainermush · 20/02/2025 14:53

But I was referring to the online version in my original comment. I genuinely don't understand what you are not understanding

JasmineAllen · 20/02/2025 14:52

trainermush · 20/02/2025 14:28

@JasmineAllen do you think the DM was always online?

No of course not. I'm not an idiot. The DM has been around for donkeys years IN PRINT.

trainermush · 20/02/2025 14:44

We go on it at work and laugh/cry at the articles.

justasking111 · 20/02/2025 14:39

trainermush · 20/02/2025 14:31

"Of the world’s top-10 news websites, MailOnline was one of only two to grow by number of visits in July, according to Press Gazette’s monthly ranking of global online traffic. Visits to dailymail.co.ukk_ were up 3% year-on-year to 429.6 million, according to data from digital intelligence platform Similarweb."

It has a huge reach & rolling news means constant stories and clickbait.

Our employers did research on what the staff 300 of us logged into for personal reasons. The top three were the DM, dating sites and FB we all got a slap on the wrist.

trainermush · 20/02/2025 14:38

😆😆

justasking111 · 20/02/2025 14:36

It's ironic that the www. Has been encouraged for the elderly. Because it's a means of communicating, staying in touch, shopping, banking. And yet they've managed to find all the nutters on you tube etc. We spend time worrying about our children being exposed, set up safety barriers, age appropriate blocks

All the while the grand parents are vanished down the scariest rabbit holes unfettered

trainermush · 20/02/2025 14:31

"Of the world’s top-10 news websites, MailOnline was one of only two to grow by number of visits in July, according to Press Gazette’s monthly ranking of global online traffic. Visits to dailymail.co.ukk_ were up 3% year-on-year to 429.6 million, according to data from digital intelligence platform Similarweb."

It has a huge reach & rolling news means constant stories and clickbait.

trainermush · 20/02/2025 14:29

When I referred to it upthread I wasn't talking about the physical paper.

trainermush · 20/02/2025 14:28

@JasmineAllen do you think the DM was always online?

trainermush · 20/02/2025 14:27

And my point is the DM doesn't have to talk about every single conspiracy theory in order to feed into the lying mainstream media argument.

JasmineAllen · 20/02/2025 14:26

trainermush · 20/02/2025 14:06

@JasmineAllen it's a general point though and media outlets like DM & GB news contribute to the increase in conspiracy theories but you don't have to agree.

I agree with you that the DM prints a lot of nonsense.

My point though is that the DM has been around for donkeys years and it's only since the advent of social media (and the modern Internet) that there's been a big increase in crazy conspiracy theories. That's why I generally point the finger at social media and not the DM.

justasking111 · 20/02/2025 14:17

Tabloids don't talk about chem trails, lizard people and the like. So where does this guff appear?

trainermush · 20/02/2025 14:07

I mean the DM definitely contributed to Brexit 😆

trainermush · 20/02/2025 14:06

@JasmineAllen it's a general point though and media outlets like DM & GB news contribute to the increase in conspiracy theories but you don't have to agree.

murasaki · 20/02/2025 14:03

It's not social media in FiL's case. I still think it's loss, his world changing after the end of a 55 year marriage, grief, a shrinking world, and GB news filling the silence of his home. It's so sad to see.

MotherofPearl · 20/02/2025 14:00

I've seen similar with my mother and my PILs. Maybe not the exact same conspiracy theories you list OP, but some similar ones.

In both these family cases it seems to come from consuming more and more content from YouTube, and a lack of awareness about how the algorithms work to direct you to watch more and more material that 'confirms' what you've already watched. They have huge amounts of time on their hands and seem to spend an enormous amount of it watching YouTube.

I wonder if greater social isolation amongst older people also contributes to this as people don't have enough people in RL to put these things in perspective. That's certainly the case for many I think - though maybe not in the OP's case.

Fitzcarraldo353 · 20/02/2025 13:57

My 80 year old mum has gone this way. It's funny because my dad would be fairly conservative and always has been and is maintaining his conservative views.

But my mum, who was more lefty and a believer in the good in the world has done a total 180 to being anti immigration, right wing, racist and Trump and conspiracy supporting. For her she was always into ' wellness' and holistic therapies so she's followed that WELL worn path from natural remedies to anti vax to full blown conspiracies.

My 11 year old nephew was afraid to brush his teeth the other night because Nana had told him the fluoride was poisonous.

It's so sad and so frustrating but it's also a product of loneliness. My dad doesn't listen to her so she spends her time on YouTube and Facebook with nothing else to do.

JasmineAllen · 20/02/2025 13:56

I know the title of the thread and I was referring to the list of things the OP said her parents now believe. Someone suggested they believe these things because they've read them in the DM and I pointed out the DM can be crazy, but it's not printing all the lunacy in the OPs list. I quoted the 3 most 'unusual' conspiracy claims in the list.

I think it's more likely the change in ideas have been encouraged by social media.

trainermush · 20/02/2025 13:47

@MzHz your explanation was much better than mine, thank you.

trainermush · 20/02/2025 13:46

And the DM loves scaremongering which isn't helping