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Do you think Zelensky will be alive a year from now?

93 replies

MsAmerica · 14/02/2025 00:14

Or has Trump's re-election essentially been his death-knell?

OP posts:
Zusammengebrochen · 19/02/2025 10:18

Never2many · 19/02/2025 09:52

Presumably someone reported your posts, and MNHQ just read the word “reported” and jumped to the conclusion that you were troll hunting. TBH I would either contact them off board or put a message on site stuff querying why and how much of the report they actually read.

I've given up trying to understand the logic behind what MN delete tbh.

Zusammengebrochen · 19/02/2025 10:17

Zonder · 19/02/2025 09:58

I think if I were Mrs Z I would already be very aware of this possibility and be glad that other people were too.

Not discussing it at length does not mean we are not aware of it!
I also wouldn't like to pretend I have any clue what his family are going through or feel like. A random person on MN isn't going to change their lives.

Zonder · 19/02/2025 09:58

Zusammengebrochen · 19/02/2025 09:45

Indeed. I said I was bowing out, and I definitely need to do that now.
This thread is horrible. Imagine you are related to this man, and then read it again - would you like someone discussing the potential extermination of your husband or son or father?

I think if I were Mrs Z I would already be very aware of this possibility and be glad that other people were too.

Zonder · 19/02/2025 09:57

WarmthAndDepth · 19/02/2025 09:40

The phrasing 'Do you think Zelensky will be alive a year from now?' feels repulsive to me. There are so many other ways to express concern for the wellbeing of another human being who is in real and present danger, without making it sound as if you're taking bets.

It cheapens what must be a terrifying situation for his family and loved ones and not least Mr Zelensky himself. The disconnect between a poster sitting comfortably at their keyboard, presumably in peace-time UK, musing about Zelensky's vitals in a year's time, and how grimly this may play out, is eye-popping to me, and reeks of privilege.

That's very subjective, as you say - you feel...

Others may feel it's a tragic possibility and worth bearing in mind in these dangerous times. I would hope we are all wishing for Zelensky's success and longevity.

Never2many · 19/02/2025 09:52

Zusammengebrochen · 19/02/2025 09:44

I reported it too, and a further comment of mine was deleted.

Presumably someone reported your posts, and MNHQ just read the word “reported” and jumped to the conclusion that you were troll hunting. TBH I would either contact them off board or put a message on site stuff querying why and how much of the report they actually read.

Zusammengebrochen · 19/02/2025 09:45

WarmthAndDepth · 19/02/2025 09:40

The phrasing 'Do you think Zelensky will be alive a year from now?' feels repulsive to me. There are so many other ways to express concern for the wellbeing of another human being who is in real and present danger, without making it sound as if you're taking bets.

It cheapens what must be a terrifying situation for his family and loved ones and not least Mr Zelensky himself. The disconnect between a poster sitting comfortably at their keyboard, presumably in peace-time UK, musing about Zelensky's vitals in a year's time, and how grimly this may play out, is eye-popping to me, and reeks of privilege.

Indeed. I said I was bowing out, and I definitely need to do that now.
This thread is horrible. Imagine you are related to this man, and then read it again - would you like someone discussing the potential extermination of your husband or son or father?

Zusammengebrochen · 19/02/2025 09:44

WarmthAndDepth · 19/02/2025 09:22

@MNHQ Why was my very brief comment stating I had reported this thread deleted? The post consisted of a three-letter acronym commonly used to express consternation or alarm, followed by the word "Reported." My report request clearly detailed my concerns about its premise.

I reported the thread as felt it is in profoundly poor taste; it is grim to speculate as to the life-expectancy of a currently healthy adult male, with the implication that his health status depends on outside forces contriving to do him harm. The life or death of another human being is not a spectator sport.

I reported it too, and a further comment of mine was deleted.

WarmthAndDepth · 19/02/2025 09:40

Zonder · 19/02/2025 08:10

What do you find repulsive about it? I think a lot of people are concerned on here for Zelensky's safety. That's not repulsive, surely?

And technically you're right but it looks like you're deleting yourself now.

The phrasing 'Do you think Zelensky will be alive a year from now?' feels repulsive to me. There are so many other ways to express concern for the wellbeing of another human being who is in real and present danger, without making it sound as if you're taking bets.

It cheapens what must be a terrifying situation for his family and loved ones and not least Mr Zelensky himself. The disconnect between a poster sitting comfortably at their keyboard, presumably in peace-time UK, musing about Zelensky's vitals in a year's time, and how grimly this may play out, is eye-popping to me, and reeks of privilege.

WarmthAndDepth · 19/02/2025 09:22

@MNHQ Why was my very brief comment stating I had reported this thread deleted? The post consisted of a three-letter acronym commonly used to express consternation or alarm, followed by the word "Reported." My report request clearly detailed my concerns about its premise.

I reported the thread as felt it is in profoundly poor taste; it is grim to speculate as to the life-expectancy of a currently healthy adult male, with the implication that his health status depends on outside forces contriving to do him harm. The life or death of another human being is not a spectator sport.

GnomeDePlume · 19/02/2025 09:18

@Queenofthejabs while Putin may be the least worst option for the West I don't think he is beyond authorising an 'unfortunate accident' for Zelensky out of petty, spiteful revenge.

Trump views the world as real estate. If he can't get his percentage then he isn't interested. He wouldn't lift a finger to protect Zelensky unless he saw money in it.

At the moment Trump is drunk on power. He also has a toddler's understanding of consequences. I could see him giving a nod to an assassination attempt though he wouldn't get his big felt tip pen out. He would enjoy boasting about it to Putin especially if he could claim he got there first.

BeyondMyWits · 19/02/2025 08:53

He'll be fine, at least until some time after the war is ended, and Trump has been given his Nobel Peace prize marking him as a great humanitarian, going down in history as one of the great and the good etc.... (I wish I was kidding)

Zonder · 19/02/2025 08:45

I admire your optimism @Queenofthejabs it would be lovely if you were right. I'm not convinced though.

Queenofthejabs · 19/02/2025 08:24

Yes I suspect so, putin made a huge mistake invading Ukraine and I suspect he knows it. The negative propoganda of him taking Zelensky out would be huge and they will want to rebuild reputation. So yes, I think he will be fine.

when I first visited Moscow over two decades ago, it was a very poor place, putin, did a huge amount to build it, it became almost westernised, and the wealth was palpable just before the war. Moscow full of luxury. Of course the poverty still visible in the outlying regions.

he then ruined that overnight, by invading Ukraine, in a war he felt would be over in two weeks. The damage he has inflicted on Russia he will fully understand. No one should think only Ukraine has suffered here.

in addition then west will not remove putin, because of all the people who will likely come next, all bar one are worse than Putin. And pose a signficant threat. Bigger than he does. Way way bigger.

The west will try to keep both Zelenskyy and Putin in power. And there will be a lot of behind the scenes negotiating we won’t hear about, for example sanctions being lifted, support agreed, Zelensky’s postion. it will not be as the headlines tell us.

the reality is trump and the Americans already know the outcome of this. As do Zelensky and Putin. Trump is simply taking lead to allow Putin to save face. And get this finished.

TurtlesDoNotPetsMake · 19/02/2025 08:20

2024YR4 · 19/02/2025 00:29

What??? No! How on earth did you get that from what I wrote. I absolutely do not condone that.

Edited

I thought exactly the same! I read your post 3 times and was Confused

Zusammengebrochen · 19/02/2025 08:18

Zonder · 19/02/2025 08:10

What do you find repulsive about it? I think a lot of people are concerned on here for Zelensky's safety. That's not repulsive, surely?

And technically you're right but it looks like you're deleting yourself now.

As I said, I'm bowing out of this particular vile thread. I'm not deleting myself. Have a pleasant day.

Zonder · 19/02/2025 08:10

Zusammengebrochen · 19/02/2025 07:53

I wasn't deleted, my comment was deleted (because some person decided to report something truthful). This thread is utterly repulsive. Bowing out seeing as MN won't do anything about it.

Edited

What do you find repulsive about it? I think a lot of people are concerned on here for Zelensky's safety. That's not repulsive, surely?

And technically you're right but it looks like you're deleting yourself now.

GnomeDePlume · 19/02/2025 08:01

I hope he stays safe.

Trump & Putin are both petty, vengeful and spiteful men. I think both are capable of signing off on an assassination attempt. Putin, because he cannot tolerate being thwarted. Trump, because it seemed like a good idea at the time.

Zalensky will need to watch his back for so long as Putin has any sort of power.

Clearinguptheclutter · 19/02/2025 07:55

I hope note

i suspect he will be exiled, in which case the UK might give him asuylum

poor man

Zusammengebrochen · 19/02/2025 07:53

Zonder · 19/02/2025 07:37

No idea what @Zusammengebrochen wrote before they were deleted but using the laughing emoji on my post gives an indication I guess.

I wasn't deleted, my comment was deleted (because some person decided to report something truthful). This thread is utterly repulsive. Bowing out seeing as MN won't do anything about it.

sugarspiceandeverythingnice12 · 19/02/2025 07:44

I think its a reasonable question, OP. Putin seems to murder a number of people that he doesn't like. I hope this doesn't happen to Zelenski

Zonder · 19/02/2025 07:37

No idea what @Zusammengebrochen wrote before they were deleted but using the laughing emoji on my post gives an indication I guess.

KvotheTheBloodless · 19/02/2025 07:18

I hope he stays safe, I can't imagine what his wife and children are going through.

missdeamenor · 19/02/2025 07:07

He had the chance to flee in a helicopter with suitcases of cash like
Ashraf Ghani. He's risked his life to save Ukraine and now he's being pushed aside.

Zusammengebrochen · 19/02/2025 06:57

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I think this is an important topic. We know how Russia have dealt with their enemies previously. Nobody is saying it would be a good idea but it's worth being aware.

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