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Dominic Cummings is Musk's informer

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trapforsanta · 12/01/2025 09:02

It's been revealed in multiple media sources after much speculation that Dominic Cummings has been whatsapping Musk with strategies to undermine the UK government and our democracy. For a while commentators have been speculating that Musk must have a hard right UK informant, since he's not across any detail himself and really has no understanding of the UK or our political system himself (see his comments about asking the King to dissolve the government). He's clearly been radicalised by watching Tommy Robinson's videos, and now we discover it's Cummings up to his dark tricks again.

I don't think I've ever wished harm to another person but honestly I wish Cummings would just bugger off for good.

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noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 21:19

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 21:16

I didn’t even put your name to that quote .
You managed to out yourself.

You literally put our names after each quote.

Are you well?

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 21:16

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 21:15

You have not paraphrased my position, because that is not my position. I can tell you that’s not my position and that you are misrepresenting me because I know better than you what my position is.

You’ve tried to tell me what I’m allowed to post on this thread (and outrageously suggested I don’t care about child abuse because I wanted to discuss the topic of the fucking thread) and now you’re trying to tell me what I think.

And you wonder why I’m being dismissive.

I didn’t even put your name to that quote .
You managed to out yourself.

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 21:15

You have not paraphrased my position, because that is not my position. I can tell you that’s not my position and that you are misrepresenting me because I know better than you what my position is.

You’ve tried to tell me what I’m allowed to post on this thread (and outrageously suggested I don’t care about child abuse because I wanted to discuss the topic of the fucking thread) and now you’re trying to tell me what I think.

And you wonder why I’m being dismissive.

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 21:15

I would also add - I deliberately didn’t name you or the other poster . You’re not the only one who holds these sort of patronising and dismissive views . I was paraphrasing to sum up a general viewpoint that I’ve seen on here.
But you obviously recognised something about that anonymous quote because you quickly claimed it .

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 21:12

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 21:04

Not sure how you got from “It's a real feature of concern and discussion in schools.” to “we don’t need to talk about this anymore”

I didn’t say I was quoting you in particular. It’s a paraphrase of yours and another poster’s comments. From page 12/13 of this thread.
You were continually trying to shut down the discussion about the grooming gangs and as part of that you were suggesting everything was much improved as far as you were concerned . School safeguarding you were particularly happy with. ( Although you ignored my point about the failure over Sara Sharif)

So - NO - I didn’t LIE . I paraphrased your position and other posters can check those pages to see if I have misrepresented you .

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 21:04

Not sure how you got from “It's a real feature of concern and discussion in schools.” to “we don’t need to talk about this anymore”

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 20:56

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 20:45

”There are new safeguarding rules in schools - we don’t need to talk about this any more”

No one said this, so putting it in quote marks is a lie.

No @noblegiraffe - it’s not a lie because I did not attribute it to anyone. It was a paraphrase to save me searching for the actual quotes.
But since you’ve accused me of lying …
Here you go -
“Policing and social services have policies and procedures around this and have had for some time.I was interviewing child victims 15 year ago and locking up offenders also. It really isn't tolerated these days.Posters on this thread are desperate to stir up racial tension, which is just what Musk and his friends want.” @ThePoshUns

“, some people seem to be of the impression that nothing has happened as a result of previous inquires or that everyone is just completely oblivious to grooming gangs. I will say that child protection training over the last ten years (at least) has been obviouslyupdated and amended so that school staff are now trained every year on how to spot the signs of child sexual exploitation and what a widespread problem it is and how it's not just 'promiscuous children' and so on. The same goes for the grooming gangs that groom children for crime (county lines). It's a real feature of concern and discussion in schools.” @noblegiraffe

I can’t be bothered looking for any more exact quotes to evidence my points .
You’ve been patronising and dismissive throughout. Now you call me a liar .

noblegiraffe · 13/01/2025 20:45

”There are new safeguarding rules in schools - we don’t need to talk about this any more”

No one said this, so putting it in quote marks is a lie.

BIossomtoes · 13/01/2025 20:45

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 20:43

Well you certainly said there were no resources with an authoritative tone . I assumed you had some kind of knowledge? No?
So it was just an opinion…

It’s hardly an opinion that the country is broke. Or that national inquiries come with £ multimillion price tags.

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 20:43

BIossomtoes · 13/01/2025 20:37

Fortunately it’s not my decision. It’s not Sarah Champion’s either.

Well you certainly said there were no resources with an authoritative tone . I assumed you had some kind of knowledge? No?
So it was just an opinion…

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 20:41

MarvellousMable · 13/01/2025 20:35

I would like to know who covered this up, why they did this, and who they were afraid of being implicated.

I have a friend who is retired from the police. In their experience, social services only reported children missing from ‘care’ homes so the police had to give them a lift home when they called to return back to the ‘care’ home.

Any attempts to determine where these minors had been, who gave them drugs, alcohol etc and if there had been any sexual activity were brushed away by the ‘care’ staff who refused to cooperate with those enquiries.

Said ‘care’ staff just stated that they couldn’t force the minors to speak with them or be medically examined and they couldn’t prevent them from leaving the ‘care’ home at any time.

F all ‘care’ for children who were supposed to be in care.

Absolutely right.
And I have friends with similar experiences.

Which is why I am SO massively pissed off by posters on here who keep saying it’s all been sorted .
“Clearly you know nothing about the improvements since Rotherham “
”There are new safeguarding rules in schools - we don’t need to talk about this any more” 🙄

Never mind all the accusations of being racist / far right/ ignorant

BIossomtoes · 13/01/2025 20:37

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 20:34

@Blossomtoes
You’d better tell Sarah Champion that you’ve decided there aren’t the resources. Because clearly you know better than her .

Fortunately it’s not my decision. It’s not Sarah Champion’s either.

MarvellousMable · 13/01/2025 20:35

I would like to know who covered this up, why they did this, and who they were afraid of being implicated.

I have a friend who is retired from the police. In their experience, social services only reported children missing from ‘care’ homes so the police had to give them a lift home when they called to return back to the ‘care’ home.

Any attempts to determine where these minors had been, who gave them drugs, alcohol etc and if there had been any sexual activity were brushed away by the ‘care’ staff who refused to cooperate with those enquiries.

Said ‘care’ staff just stated that they couldn’t force the minors to speak with them or be medically examined and they couldn’t prevent them from leaving the ‘care’ home at any time.

F all ‘care’ for children who were supposed to be in care.

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 20:34

@Blossomtoes
You’d better tell Sarah Champion that you’ve decided there aren’t the resources. Because clearly you know better than her .

Tomatotater · 13/01/2025 20:32

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 20:26

Really? That’s convenient for lots of people then isn’t it?

Yes. Normally governments who want to look like they are doing something when they don't. Luckily the current government not doing that and is ignoring some drugged up narcissist and implementing the current enquiry instead of spending time and money finding out something everyone already knows- that the reasons this went on was that the police and social workers were not only scared of being called racist but were also classist and misogynist, and didn't bother about girls in care They didn't treat those girls like human beings either.

BIossomtoes · 13/01/2025 20:27

Who’s it convenient for?

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 20:26

BIossomtoes · 13/01/2025 20:21

It’s not. Inquiries cost millions and require teams of experts. There aren’t the resources to do both simultaneously.

Really? That’s convenient for lots of people then isn’t it?

BIossomtoes · 13/01/2025 20:21

It’s not. Inquiries cost millions and require teams of experts. There aren’t the resources to do both simultaneously.

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 20:20

BIossomtoes · 13/01/2025 20:14

So how would it be helpful to do it again?

I don’t think asking for an enquiry is the same thing as asking for the recommendations to be ignored.
I think it’s possible to implement the recommendations AND to conduct an enquiry into the cover ups over this scandal

BIossomtoes · 13/01/2025 20:14

So how would it be helpful to do it again?

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 20:12

BIossomtoes · 13/01/2025 20:08

Ignore/kick them down the road for years - it amounts to the same thing.

Ah yes ….isn’t that what’s already been happening for years - ignore/ kick it down the road…

BIossomtoes · 13/01/2025 20:08

Ignore/kick them down the road for years - it amounts to the same thing.

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 20:06

Tomatotater · 13/01/2025 20:00

Because there was an enquiry, and he wants another one before the recommendations of the one that took 7 years to conclude and cost millions has been implemented. I fully accept that he doesn't know what he's talking about and is parroting something Tommy Robinson said though. But I wouldn't put it past him to know that the Jay report also looked at online grooming and the role of social media companies in failing to safeguard children.

“Because there was an enquiry, and he wants another one before the recommendations of the one that took 7 years to conclude and cost millions has been implemented”
He has asked for an enquiry - But that doesn’t mean he’s demanding the Jay recommendations are ignored which is what you claimed earlier?

Tomatotater · 13/01/2025 20:00

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 17:46

When did he demand that the Jay recommendations should be ignored ? I’ve missed that.

Because there was an enquiry, and he wants another one before the recommendations of the one that took 7 years to conclude and cost millions has been implemented. I fully accept that he doesn't know what he's talking about and is parroting something Tommy Robinson said though. But I wouldn't put it past him to know that the Jay report also looked at online grooming and the role of social media companies in failing to safeguard children.