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Too many fake current affairs posts on MN

190 replies

inthetrenches1 · 10/01/2025 20:08

I’ve never started a post before (I don’t think?), I’m an on-off lurker for a while, but what’s become apparent is the number of posts on MN that have clearly been posted by political parties opposing the government. It’s just another tactic used these days like creating online petitions and fake polls about issues/fake issues to get sectors of society riled up about things they were never worried about before.

Misinformation filtering into society is at an all-time high. You can see them a mile away on here. Next time you see a “I’ve seen a poll saying Reform are more popular than Labour” just remember it’s probably a lackey of Farage and Tice’s, with seven mobile phones and three laptops, thirty different fake profiles on the go, gleefully making up these baseless posts on here and on social media.

If you want to leave a comment feel free, I only came here to post, I probably won’t be reading the replies

OP posts:
Zonder · 12/01/2025 12:36

Ok let's all post links to the Daily Fail, shall we?

Or shall we try to find the truth about stats and stories?

Julen7 · 12/01/2025 11:58

Adamante · 12/01/2025 11:51

Of course you are, I’m just not going to make it easy for firmly biased posters who wouldn’t be convinced no matter what evidence is provided. That you keep returning to this just makes you sound irritated because that is your preferred style of discussion and you cannot use this tactic any longer. We all trust different sources, if it’s true you’ll find it wherever you look. What is the point of post after post snarking and displacing the meat of the discussion with arguments over whether a source is reliable or not? That will never be agreed upon 🤷🏼‍♀️

Exactly this. “I don’t like the evidence so I’m just going to pretend I don’t trust the source” - or multiple sources. it’s the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears.

Adamante · 12/01/2025 11:51

Zonder · 12/01/2025 11:43

You're not allowed to question sources apparently.

Of course you are, I’m just not going to make it easy for firmly biased posters who wouldn’t be convinced no matter what evidence is provided. That you keep returning to this just makes you sound irritated because that is your preferred style of discussion and you cannot use this tactic any longer. We all trust different sources, if it’s true you’ll find it wherever you look. What is the point of post after post snarking and displacing the meat of the discussion with arguments over whether a source is reliable or not? That will never be agreed upon 🤷🏼‍♀️

Zonder · 12/01/2025 11:43

inthetrenches1 · 12/01/2025 11:36

Just a reminder that YouGov was founded by Nadhim Zahawi, former Conservative Chancellor of the Exchequer, Chairman, and various other Tory roles. He who ‘forgot’ to pay millions to HMRC.

I see the words ‘Results of a Yougov poll’ and I take them with the world’s biggest pinch of salt

You're not allowed to question sources apparently.

inthetrenches1 · 12/01/2025 11:36

User37482 · 12/01/2025 08:23

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51211-where-public-opinion-stands-at-the-beginning-of-2025

This is polling from yougov. labour are genuinely unpopular.

Theres something telling about posters who complain about posters criticising the government. Something almost stasi like. Hand on heart never seen a right wing poster complain that posters who don’t like the Tories are bots. Criticising the government is like a national sport in Britain. Long may it continue.

I think one poll put reform and Labour neck and neck in the polls, but it was one poll. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it not real.

Just a reminder that YouGov was founded by Nadhim Zahawi, former Conservative Chancellor of the Exchequer, Chairman, and various other Tory roles. He who ‘forgot’ to pay millions to HMRC.

I see the words ‘Results of a Yougov poll’ and I take them with the world’s biggest pinch of salt

OP posts:
BIossomtoes · 12/01/2025 11:07

Rummly · 12/01/2025 10:37

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But the Guardian is hardly even-handed! It’s Labour’s in-house organ for the most part (that’s not an insult to it, it’s just an editorial position and is true of the Telegraph and Tories too). It does run stories unsympathetic to Labour, yes, but then so do the Times, ST and Telegraph about the Tories.

The Guardian is pretty critical of the current government. Check out Marina Hyde’s latest column, it’s excoriating.

Podcastqueen · 12/01/2025 11:05

inthetrenches1 · 10/01/2025 20:08

I’ve never started a post before (I don’t think?), I’m an on-off lurker for a while, but what’s become apparent is the number of posts on MN that have clearly been posted by political parties opposing the government. It’s just another tactic used these days like creating online petitions and fake polls about issues/fake issues to get sectors of society riled up about things they were never worried about before.

Misinformation filtering into society is at an all-time high. You can see them a mile away on here. Next time you see a “I’ve seen a poll saying Reform are more popular than Labour” just remember it’s probably a lackey of Farage and Tice’s, with seven mobile phones and three laptops, thirty different fake profiles on the go, gleefully making up these baseless posts on here and on social media.

If you want to leave a comment feel free, I only came here to post, I probably won’t be reading the replies

Fucking hell, this is equivalent to a toddler tantrum where they don’t like what’s being said “Lalalalalala sticks fingers in ears, I can’t hear youuuu”

I’m gonna start a thread to get my very important thoughts out and I don’t care if you dispute what I say because I’m not gonna read it anyway so there! But if enough people say nice agreeable things I may deign to pop back on! lmfao “they don’t like it up em”

It’s inevitable that a new government will be talked about especially when it’s one that was long-awaited. Yet rapidly descended into the most unpopular within the first six months due to their lies and hypocrisy.

Rummly · 12/01/2025 10:37

BIossomtoes · 12/01/2025 10:31

I completely agree with you about The Times and Sunday Times. I read the Telegraph every day because my bloke’s a subscriber and it really couldn’t be more partisan if it tried.

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But the Guardian is hardly even-handed! It’s Labour’s in-house organ for the most part (that’s not an insult to it, it’s just an editorial position and is true of the Telegraph and Tories too). It does run stories unsympathetic to Labour, yes, but then so do the Times, ST and Telegraph about the Tories.

Julen7 · 12/01/2025 10:34

BIossomtoes · 12/01/2025 10:31

I completely agree with you about The Times and Sunday Times. I read the Telegraph every day because my bloke’s a subscriber and it really couldn’t be more partisan if it tried.

Like the Guardian then

BIossomtoes · 12/01/2025 10:31

Rummly · 12/01/2025 10:20

The Guardian only gets doubted - by me anyway - when it’s held up, expressly or by implication, as a better source than any other ‘broadsheet’. It’s no better and no worse than the Times, Sunday Times or Telegraph.

I completely agree with you about The Times and Sunday Times. I read the Telegraph every day because my bloke’s a subscriber and it really couldn’t be more partisan if it tried.

EasternStandard · 12/01/2025 10:29

Julen7 · 12/01/2025 09:44

Yes, when links are provided after demands you get the derisory “oh I don’t find any of those sources reliable” - honestly why bother

Exactly and the rest

Rummly · 12/01/2025 10:20

BIossomtoes · 12/01/2025 10:17

Works both ways. “Oh, the Grauniad” is a favourite.

The Guardian only gets doubted - by me anyway - when it’s held up, expressly or by implication, as a better source than any other ‘broadsheet’. It’s no better and no worse than the Times, Sunday Times or Telegraph.

BIossomtoes · 12/01/2025 10:17

Julen7 · 12/01/2025 09:44

Yes, when links are provided after demands you get the derisory “oh I don’t find any of those sources reliable” - honestly why bother

Works both ways. “Oh, the Grauniad” is a favourite.

Julen7 · 12/01/2025 09:44

EasternStandard · 12/01/2025 05:33

Yes the demand for links is often followed by insults from a few so why bother.

Plus no please or thanks and demands at 1am or whatever, I can see why the pp responded as they did.

Good to see mnhq finally deleting bot accusations as a matter of course, it was those posts making the site tedious. An attempt to drive political views away of course, too many think the gov are poor for that to work now.

Yes, when links are provided after demands you get the derisory “oh I don’t find any of those sources reliable” - honestly why bother

Beachwalksinwinter · 12/01/2025 09:31

I agree with you OP go over to the Education Board and you will find lots of threads proclaiming the end of the world due to the 20% VAT increase on school fees. It reminds me of the Covid threads. Disagree and you are shouted down..no discussion. Same on the Politics Board, AIBU and Chat - surprised they haven’t found a way onto style and beauty and Christmas

BIossomtoes · 12/01/2025 09:04

Good point @Rummly. The only poster I can think of who I can say definitely comments to promote their favoured party is one who is notorious for their use of copy and paste and providing links. I’m sure regulars on political threads know who I mean. I don’t think I’ve ever agreed with her but I do respect the robustness of her contributions.

Rummly · 12/01/2025 08:59

This is a very interesting subject, in some ways.

Are there posters who comment about politics because they’re part of a political scheme? Maybe, but they’re likely to be very few.

Are there posters who comment on politics by themselves but intending to promote a party they belong to? Probably, but again I suspect there aren’t many.

Are Labour (and perhaps some other parties’) supporters particularly sensitive to anti-Labour sentiment? That seems much more likely.

Labour supporters have had 14 years to become self-righteous and indignant. That’s natural, and if Labour gets two or three terms we’ll see the same from Tories and Reform (if Reform survives, which I doubt).

The issue will fade.

As to incessant posting, look at the pro-Palestinian and pro-private schools topics!

EasternStandard · 12/01/2025 08:55

Adamante · 12/01/2025 08:35

I couldn't care less. If you're curious you'll look, if you're not you won't. It's not my job to convince randoms on the internet.

Moving on from the circular pp below which are a bit pointless I agree with this and @User37482

Zonder · 12/01/2025 08:50

EasternStandard · 12/01/2025 08:35

Oh my

You don’t have to engage with my posts it’s not compulsory

There are others, enjoy.

As I said, I responded to make a point, and I'm bearing in mind that you might not be controlling, despite this comment.

Newyearsamebs · 12/01/2025 08:50

BIossomtoes · 12/01/2025 08:18

It’s sheer laziness. No link or naming your source? Absolutely fine, I won’t believe you. I wouldn’t expect anyone to believe me if I didn’t back it up with evidence.

People don’t care. Many don’t have the time to spend all day responding to never ending demands for sources from a coordinated group of posters. Many just use the place as a discussion forum: they pick it up and leave it. People don’t care if randoms on the internet believe them or not. When posters behave like that it comes across as a bit of a complex of ‘how important they are.’ It’s an anonymous internet forum.

EasternStandard · 12/01/2025 08:35

Zonder · 12/01/2025 08:32

I didn't wish to scroll past or I would have done! I wished to make a point about tone. See, I think that your tone comes over in a certain way in this post but I'm trying to remember that I'm reading it subjectively and you might be quite pleasant, and not at all controlling.

Oh my

You don’t have to engage with my posts it’s not compulsory

There are others, enjoy.

Adamante · 12/01/2025 08:35

BIossomtoes · 12/01/2025 08:18

It’s sheer laziness. No link or naming your source? Absolutely fine, I won’t believe you. I wouldn’t expect anyone to believe me if I didn’t back it up with evidence.

I couldn't care less. If you're curious you'll look, if you're not you won't. It's not my job to convince randoms on the internet.

Zonder · 12/01/2025 08:32

EasternStandard · 12/01/2025 08:31

Yep I agree with the pp take. And I can see why they responded to your posts as they did.

As for your response here scroll past as you wish I’m up for that.

I didn't wish to scroll past or I would have done! I wished to make a point about tone. See, I think that your tone comes over in a certain way in this post but I'm trying to remember that I'm reading it subjectively and you might be quite pleasant, and not at all controlling.

EasternStandard · 12/01/2025 08:31

Zonder · 12/01/2025 08:29

Tone? This is very subjective in a post. Your tone often comes over in a certain way but we have to remember that we are all subjective readers.

Yep I agree with the pp take. And I can see why they responded to your posts as they did.

As for your response here scroll past as you wish I’m up for that.

Zonder · 12/01/2025 08:29

EasternStandard · 12/01/2025 08:21

I don’t think people will care

I know I’d prefer not to be badgered by some so if they give up with that all good

The pp was right about tone too

Tone? This is very subjective in a post. Your tone often comes over in a certain way but we have to remember that we are all subjective readers.